Wolf advisory group to meet in Ellensburg this week

[CAMPMEAT]

I think all cattle should be given some Dead Down Wind spray, that should be brought up at the meeting. That is just about as stupid as having all these ignorant meetings, WHERE the wolves don't live...or work, YET !! Have the damn meetings in the explicit areas, where the locals can control the meetings, not the pro-wolf loving antis...

[mfswallace]

A "wolf-friendly beef" label for meat from cattle raised under wolf protection measures and ways to help a rancher who lost a lot of sheep to wolves were discussed by Washington's wolf advisory group.

http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20151001/wolf-panel-discusses-wolf-friendly-beef#.Vg1jpxNS3nI.facebook


WOW !!   

That idea was brought up, and very quickly dismissed, due to the MANY issues that would keep it from being possible right now.  Funny how one brief discussion can make up the majority of his article when it was never even considered as an option.  Even more funny that you guys are trusting the Capitol Press as your source for accurate, unbiased news.
If you want to know what's going on and then be able to make educated, sensible comments about it, then attend a meeting.  Most of the comments that get made right now by the majority of the forum aren't even worth a response, they are so far off base.
So you know, we have made a lot of progress the last meetings with getting the environmental groups to agree to a clear, undisputable resolution process, which will include lethal measures, and we're doing that to get rid of any possibility of lawsuit because they don't agree with how the plan is written.  They are conceding many ideas that they previously had, and we are going through the protocol line by line until everyone agrees 100% with the process, taking away any grounds for injunction or litigation when it comes time to kill wolves.  And, we are not adding anything into the plan beyond what was initially written...so, we are not giving anything up, while they are, in order to follow the lethal take protocol to the letter.
You guys should remember, the environmental groups are outnumbered 14 to 5, and WDFW is siding with us much more than anyone else.  Attend a meeting, and you won't have to take anyone's word for it, you can see for yourself what's going on in there.
Next meeting, in December, the "hunters" group is making their presentation to the WAG, and showing why hunting and management are so important to us.  We are having a few guest speakers, including Shane Mahoney, and the meetings are in Spokane.  If you want one WAG meeting to attend, this is the one I would recommend.  If you don't know who Shane is, watch some of his speeches on youtube...he's worth the trip over to hear.

WhAT DATE IN DECEMBER???

[CAMPMEAT]

A, feel good label, wow, that would really make me feel right at home with the ANTIs. If I saw that type of, feel good label, in the store, I wouldn't give a, you know what, about it. What's it supposed to do ? I really don't understand how these liberals can sleep at night....I swear, they are taking over the planet by leaps and bounds...

[MuleDeer]

I think all cattle should be given some Dead Down Wind spray, that should be brought up at the meeting. That is just about as stupid as having all these ignorant meetings, WHERE the wolves don't live...or work, YET !! Have the damn meetings in the explicit areas, where the locals can control the meetings, not the pro-wolf loving antis...

Thanks for making my earlier post more valid: sit on here and gripe to the choir, or go to a meeting and have your voice heard...it's your choice.

[MuleDeer]

A "wolf-friendly beef" label for meat from cattle raised under wolf protection measures and ways to help a rancher who lost a lot of sheep to wolves were discussed by Washington's wolf advisory group.

http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20151001/wolf-panel-discusses-wolf-friendly-beef#.Vg1jpxNS3nI.facebook


WOW !!   

That idea was brought up, and very quickly dismissed, due to the MANY issues that would keep it from being possible right now.  Funny how one brief discussion can make up the majority of his article when it was never even considered as an option.  Even more funny that you guys are trusting the Capitol Press as your source for accurate, unbiased news.
If you want to know what's going on and then be able to make educated, sensible comments about it, then attend a meeting.  Most of the comments that get made right now by the majority of the forum aren't even worth a response, they are so far off base.
So you know, we have made a lot of progress the last meetings with getting the environmental groups to agree to a clear, undisputable resolution process, which will include lethal measures, and we're doing that to get rid of any possibility of lawsuit because they don't agree with how the plan is written.  They are conceding many ideas that they previously had, and we are going through the protocol line by line until everyone agrees 100% with the process, taking away any grounds for injunction or litigation when it comes time to kill wolves.  And, we are not adding anything into the plan beyond what was initially written...so, we are not giving anything up, while they are, in order to follow the lethal take protocol to the letter.
You guys should remember, the environmental groups are outnumbered 14 to 5, and WDFW is siding with us much more than anyone else.  Attend a meeting, and you won't have to take anyone's word for it, you can see for yourself what's going on in there.
Next meeting, in December, the "hunters" group is making their presentation to the WAG, and showing why hunting and management are so important to us.  We are having a few guest speakers, including Shane Mahoney, and the meetings are in Spokane.  If you want one WAG meeting to attend, this is the one I would recommend.  If you don't know who Shane is, watch some of his speeches on youtube...he's worth the trip over to hear.

WhAT DATE IN DECEMBER???

The WAG meeting will be December 13th and 14th.  There will be a post on here with the exact info as far as times and location of the meeting when it comes up.  We have to use a bigger room on Sunday, because we are expecting to have a decent crowd come to listen to Shane Mahoney speak, then the Monday meeting will be back at a hotel meeting room, I am sure.  will post update when I get one.

[CAMPMEAT]

It's a 5 hour drive from my house. Why don't they have a damned meeting where the problems are ? They won't because they'd get run out of town. I bet if they had a meeting in Republic form once and make the antis drive to it, it would be a different type of meeting. The WDFW does their dog and pony shows like they do, on purpose.

Muledeer, how many wolves have you personally seen in this state ? I've seen 6.

[wolfbait]

I think all cattle should be given some Dead Down Wind spray, that should be brought up at the meeting. That is just about as stupid as having all these ignorant meetings, WHERE the wolves don't live...or work, YET !! Have the damn meetings in the explicit areas, where the locals can control the meetings, not the pro-wolf loving antis...

Thanks for making my earlier post more valid: sit on here and gripe to the choir, or go to a meeting and have your voice heard...it's your choice.

That boat is full of holes and sinking. It's a farce just like the wolf meetings, WDFW and their friends on the WAG are scoping for support from those who have no skin in the numbers game with wolves, otherwise WDFW would be having their meetings where wolves have affected people the most.

Things are going along just as was planned, look at WDFW's thirty year plan and who their partners are.

[BOWHUNTER45]

I think all cattle should be given some Dead Down Wind spray, that should be brought up at the meeting. That is just about as stupid as having all these ignorant meetings, WHERE the wolves don't live...or work, YET !! Have the damn meetings in the explicit areas, where the locals can control the meetings, not the pro-wolf loving antis...

Thanks for making my earlier post more valid: sit on here and gripe to the choir, or go to a meeting and have your voice heard...it's your choice.

That boat is full of holes and sinking. It's a farce just like the wolf meetings, WDFW and their friends on the WAG are scoping for support from those who have no skin in the numbers game with wolves, otherwise WDFW would be having their meetings where wolves have affected people the most.

Things are going along just as was planned, look at WDFW's thirty year plan and who their partners are.

you know whats going on ...I am about done with their crap ...Just go hunting ...maybe we should just kill all the big game and then no one will need to worry about who is right and who is wrong and then we will all be treated equal because there is nothing left to manage ...excuse if I offend anyone but it is the truth ...my teeth are grinding lately ...I can not even get excited about doing anything around here anymore .

[CAMPMEAT]

Trying to do anything is the state is controlled 99% by the westside of the state......period.

[MuleDeer]

It's a 5 hour drive from my house. Why don't they have a damned meeting where the problems are ? They won't because they'd get run out of town. I bet if they had a meeting in Republic form once and make the antis drive to it, it would be a different type of meeting. The WDFW does their dog and pony shows like they do, on purpose.

Muledeer, how many wolves have you personally seen in this state ? I've seen 6.

How many wolf meetings (WAG or not) have you been to in this state?  I've been to more than a dozen, and will continue to go and provide any input I can.  I will at least represent a voice for hunters at the meetings.  How many wolves I've seen (3 in this state) doesn't really have anything to do with the subject.  Does it matter who's seen the most?  I stated earlier why they have the meetings where they do.  Antis don't drive to the WAG meetings, just like hunters don't drive to WAG meetings to speak of, no matter where they are held.  Most people I've seen at one is maybe 5...and they have supported hunting and wolf management, not preservation.
Perfect case of hunters complaining but not bothering to make their presence seen?  The Mule Deer Mgmt Plan meetings that were held in Ellensburg on Tuesday and Spokane last night.  Guess how many of the public bothered to show up?  6 in Ellensburg, and 5 in Spokane, and those numbers included my wife and I!  Ridiculous when a public meeting is held and almost no one will take the time to go, but complain when they feel like their voice isn't being heard.
I realize if you're in an area like Republic, not a lot of meetings are possible to get to.  But there are bunches on this forum who insist on complaining, but will never take 2 hours of their time to go sit at a meeting and take the opportunity to speak face to face with the deer and elk manager for the state.  I'm not pointing you out, but all who refuse to show up at a meeting that's close to them, then complain the agencies don't want to listen to them....we'll see how many show up in Olympia for the last mgmt. plan meeting on the 29th, or the WAG in Spokane on Dec 13-14.  or the wdfw open forum meeting in Wenatchee on the 20th of this month.......

[CAMPMEAT]

It's a 5 hour drive from my house. Why don't they have a damned meeting where the problems are ? They won't because they'd get run out of town. I bet if they had a meeting in Republic form once and make the antis drive to it, it would be a different type of meeting. The WDFW does their dog and pony shows like they do, on purpose.

Muledeer, how many wolves have you personally seen in this state ? I've seen 6.

How many wolf meetings (WAG or not) have you been to in this state?  I've been to more than a dozen, and will continue to go and provide any input I can.  I will at least represent a voice for hunters at the meetings.  How many wolves I've seen (3 in this state) doesn't really have anything to do with the subject.  Does it matter who's seen the most?  I stated earlier why they have the meetings where they do.  Antis don't drive to the WAG meetings, just like hunters don't drive to WAG meetings to speak of, no matter where they are held.  Most people I've seen at one is maybe 5...and they have supported hunting and wolf management, not preservation.
Perfect case of hunters complaining but not bothering to make their presence seen?  The Mule Deer Mgmt Plan meetings that were held in Ellensburg on Tuesday and Spokane last night.  Guess how many of the public bothered to show up?  6 in Ellensburg, and 5 in Spokane, and those numbers included my wife and I!  Ridiculous when a public meeting is held and almost no one will take the time to go, but complain when they feel like their voice isn't being heard.
I realize if you're in an area like Republic, not a lot of meetings are possible to get to.  But there are bunches on this forum who insist on complaining, but will never take 2 hours of their time to go sit at a meeting and take the opportunity to speak face to face with the deer and elk manager for the state.  I'm not pointing you out, but all who refuse to show up at a meeting that's close to them, then complain the agencies don't want to listen to them....we'll see how many show up in Olympia for the last mgmt. plan meeting on the 29th, or the WAG in Spokane on Dec 13-14.  or the wdfw open forum meeting in Wenatchee on the 20th of this month.......

I do not care about your BS. You just keep on going to meetings, ran by a government agency, who controls, who, what, and where we can go, when and how we can hunt, tellings us that has been going on forever. So, MuleDeer, why don't we just leave it at that ? I get irritated when people try and cram things down my throat, or anybodies. I have the right to complain and moan about anything I want, I'm not a kid...

[billythekidrock]

It's a 5 hour drive from my house. Why don't they have a damned meeting where the problems are ? They won't because they'd get run out of town. I bet if they had a meeting in Republic form once and make the antis drive to it, it would be a different type of meeting. The WDFW does their dog and pony shows like they do, on purpose.

Muledeer, how many wolves have you personally seen in this state ? I've seen 6.

How many wolf meetings (WAG or not) have you been to in this state?  I've been to more than a dozen, and will continue to go and provide any input I can.  I will at least represent a voice for hunters at the meetings.  How many wolves I've seen (3 in this state) doesn't really have anything to do with the subject.  Does it matter who's seen the most?  I stated earlier why they have the meetings where they do.  Antis don't drive to the WAG meetings, just like hunters don't drive to WAG meetings to speak of, no matter where they are held.  Most people I've seen at one is maybe 5...and they have supported hunting and wolf management, not preservation.
Perfect case of hunters complaining but not bothering to make their presence seen?  The Mule Deer Mgmt Plan meetings that were held in Ellensburg on Tuesday and Spokane last night.  Guess how many of the public bothered to show up?  6 in Ellensburg, and 5 in Spokane, and those numbers included my wife and I!  Ridiculous when a public meeting is held and almost no one will take the time to go, but complain when they feel like their voice isn't being heard.
I realize if you're in an area like Republic, not a lot of meetings are possible to get to.  But there are bunches on this forum who insist on complaining, but will never take 2 hours of their time to go sit at a meeting and take the opportunity to speak face to face with the deer and elk manager for the state.  I'm not pointing you out, but all who refuse to show up at a meeting that's close to them, then complain the agencies don't want to listen to them....we'll see how many show up in Olympia for the last mgmt. plan meeting on the 29th, or the WAG in Spokane on Dec 13-14.  or the wdfw open forum meeting in Wenatchee on the 20th of this month.......

I do not care about your BS. You just keep on going to meetings, ran by a government agency, who controls, who, what, and where we can go, when and how we can hunt, tellings us that has been going on forever. So, MuleDeer, why don't we just leave it at that ? I get irritated when people try and cram things down my throat, or anybodies. I have the right to complain and moan about anything I want, I'm not a kid...

 

[grundy53]

It's a 5 hour drive from my house. Why don't they have a damned meeting where the problems are ? They won't because they'd get run out of town. I bet if they had a meeting in Republic form once and make the antis drive to it, it would be a different type of meeting. The WDFW does their dog and pony shows like they do, on purpose.

Muledeer, how many wolves have you personally seen in this state ? I've seen 6.

Uh, you do realize there are wolves near Ellensburg right. And they have killed livestock. So I would say that IS one of the places where the problem is.

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[CAMPMEAT]

It's a 5 hour drive from my house. Why don't they have a damned meeting where the problems are ? They won't because they'd get run out of town. I bet if they had a meeting in Republic form once and make the antis drive to it, it would be a different type of meeting. The WDFW does their dog and pony shows like they do, on purpose.

Muledeer, how many wolves have you personally seen in this state ? I've seen 6.

Uh, you do realize there are wolves near Ellensburg right. And they have killed livestock. So I would say that IS one of the places where the problem is.

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Yes grundy, I know they're there. My main complaint is that the meetings are some what held in areas, where the antis have the biggest voice and HUGE amounts of money to get what they want. Then they have closed door meetings etc.

We are having sightings here almost weekly, so the antis are winning, with the help of the WDFW. Total waste of time in my eyes, because the WDFW does the dog and pony shows for the general public and not the problem. I know, personally, there are alot PO'd ranchers around my neck of the woods..

[grundy53]

It's a 5 hour drive from my house. Why don't they have a damned meeting where the problems are ? They won't because they'd get run out of town. I bet if they had a meeting in Republic form once and make the antis drive to it, it would be a different type of meeting. The WDFW does their dog and pony shows like they do, on purpose.

Muledeer, how many wolves have you personally seen in this state ? I've seen 6.

Uh, you do realize there are wolves near Ellensburg right. And they have killed livestock. So I would say that IS one of the places where the problem is.

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Yes grundy, I know they're there. My main complaint is that the meetings are some what held in areas, where the antis have the biggest voice and HUGE amounts of money to get what they want. Then they have closed door meetings etc.

We are having sightings here almost weekly, so the antis are winning, with the help of the WDFW. Total waste of time in my eyes, because the WDFW does the dog and pony shows for the general public and not the problem. I know, personally, there are alot PO'd ranchers around my neck of the woods..

I do agree with you about the game department.

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