Wisconsin Deer Hunter Fends off Wolves with Walther PK .380

[jasnt]

So this guy didnt even have a round chambered.  I just dont get why people walk around with their guns like that.

same here. I ALWAYS carry cocked and locked.  Those seconds it takes chamber a round could be all you got

[AspenBud]

I agree wolf bait. I've posted this before but it relates to this thread.


Wolves don’t attack people – BUSTED
There are no known gray wolf attacks on humans in modern times in North America – USFW
The definition of “modern times” according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary is: the present or the immediate past. Considering most animal rights and environmental groups claim that the wolf has been nearly extinct since the early 1900s, it’s obvious that there would be no documented attacks, so let’s evaluate times when wolves were plentiful. Historically Documented Attacks, When Wolves Were Plentiful*:
France: Between 1580 and 1830, 3,069 people were killed by wolves
Sweden: Between 1763 and 1767, 99 people were killed by wolves
Italy: Between the 15th and 19th century 440 people were killed by wolves
Russia: Between 1943 and 1947, 60 people were killed by wolves, 46 were children
India & Pakistan: In 1875, 721 people were killed by wolves
Iran: In 2005 and 2008 two people were killed.
North America: Prior to the 1700s there were no records kept on wolf attacks. However, there is a lot of folklore from Native American culture which depicts wolf attacks. In 1807 during the Lewis and Clark Expedition camped on the shores of the Yellowstone River when a wolf came into camp and bit Private Richard Windsor.
Near the Ohio border in 1803, wolves attacked two men, killing one.
In 1833 a wolf attacked a trapper camp in Wyoming biting 13 people.
In 1881 an 18 year old female was attacked by a wolf in Colorado.
In the Canadian Arctic Expedition of 1913-1918 a wolf attacked the expedition, which is now on display in the National Museum in Ottawa.
In 1922 a trapper and two Indians sent to find the trapper were found killed by wolves.
Modern Times, When Wolves Are “Near Extinction”*:
In 1974-1975 wolves killed 165 dogs in Fairbanks, Alaska, which resulted in the killing of 13 wolves. After the wolves were culled, the attacks reportedly drastically dropped.
In 1996 five wolves attacked and killed 25 year old Patricia Wyman in Ontario.
In 2000 a 6 year old boy and 9 year old boy were attacked by a wolf in Icy Bay, Alaska.
In 2000, 23 year old Scott Langevin was attacked by a wolf while sleeping on Vargas Island in British Columbia.
In 2005, Kenton Carnegie was attacked and killed by wolves in northern Saskatchewan.
In 2005, Fred Desjarlais  was attacked in Saskatchewan when returning home from Key Lake.
In 2006 six people were attacked by a wolf in Ontario.
In 2010, Candice Berner was jogging in Chignik Lake, Alaska when she was attacked and killed by wolves.
In 2013, a good samaritan driver Dawn Hepp was attacked by a wolf on the side of the road in Manitoba.
In 2013, a teenager was attacked while in his sleeping bag in Minnesota. He physically pried the wolf’s jaw open to remove his head.

Read more
http://oregonoutdoorcouncil.org/top-wolf-myths-busted-wolves-do-attack-people-do-impact-hunting-do-surplus-kill-et-al/

You do however understand that bear attacks have probably come close to, if not topped, all of the attacks you listed there in just this year alone right?

Here's the latest one I've heard about.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hunter-escapes-attack-by-shoving-arm-down-bears-throat/ar-AAf8h21

It's not that wolves won't attack people, at least from my perspective, it's that the odds of it happening compared to mountain lions and bears is quite low, at least for now.

[jasnt]

I agree wolf bait. I've posted this before but it relates to this thread.


Wolves don’t attack people – BUSTED
There are no known gray wolf attacks on humans in modern times in North America – USFW
The definition of “modern times” according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary is: the present or the immediate past. Considering most animal rights and environmental groups claim that the wolf has been nearly extinct since the early 1900s, it’s obvious that there would be no documented attacks, so let’s evaluate times when wolves were plentiful. Historically Documented Attacks, When Wolves Were Plentiful*:
France: Between 1580 and 1830, 3,069 people were killed by wolves
Sweden: Between 1763 and 1767, 99 people were killed by wolves
Italy: Between the 15th and 19th century 440 people were killed by wolves
Russia: Between 1943 and 1947, 60 people were killed by wolves, 46 were children
India & Pakistan: In 1875, 721 people were killed by wolves
Iran: In 2005 and 2008 two people were killed.
North America: Prior to the 1700s there were no records kept on wolf attacks. However, there is a lot of folklore from Native American culture which depicts wolf attacks. In 1807 during the Lewis and Clark Expedition camped on the shores of the Yellowstone River when a wolf came into camp and bit Private Richard Windsor.
Near the Ohio border in 1803, wolves attacked two men, killing one.
In 1833 a wolf attacked a trapper camp in Wyoming biting 13 people.
In 1881 an 18 year old female was attacked by a wolf in Colorado.
In the Canadian Arctic Expedition of 1913-1918 a wolf attacked the expedition, which is now on display in the National Museum in Ottawa.
In 1922 a trapper and two Indians sent to find the trapper were found killed by wolves.
Modern Times, When Wolves Are “Near Extinction”*:
In 1974-1975 wolves killed 165 dogs in Fairbanks, Alaska, which resulted in the killing of 13 wolves. After the wolves were culled, the attacks reportedly drastically dropped.
In 1996 five wolves attacked and killed 25 year old Patricia Wyman in Ontario.
In 2000 a 6 year old boy and 9 year old boy were attacked by a wolf in Icy Bay, Alaska.
In 2000, 23 year old Scott Langevin was attacked by a wolf while sleeping on Vargas Island in British Columbia.
In 2005, Kenton Carnegie was attacked and killed by wolves in northern Saskatchewan.
In 2005, Fred Desjarlais  was attacked in Saskatchewan when returning home from Key Lake.
In 2006 six people were attacked by a wolf in Ontario.
In 2010, Candice Berner was jogging in Chignik Lake, Alaska when she was attacked and killed by wolves.
In 2013, a good samaritan driver Dawn Hepp was attacked by a wolf on the side of the road in Manitoba.
In 2013, a teenager was attacked while in his sleeping bag in Minnesota. He physically pried the wolf’s jaw open to remove his head.

Read more
http://oregonoutdoorcouncil.org/top-wolf-myths-busted-wolves-do-attack-people-do-impact-hunting-do-surplus-kill-et-al/

You do however understand that bear attacks have probably come close to, if not topped, all of the attacks you listed there in just this year alone right?

Here's the latest one I've heard about.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hunter-escapes-attack-by-shoving-arm-down-bears-throat/ar-AAf8h21

It's not that wolves won't attack people, at least from my perspective, it's that the odds of it happening compared to mountain lions and bears is quite low, at least for now.

considering how many more bear and cougar there are com paired to how many wolves in the US puts it more in perspective. Duh bear attacks and cougar attacks out number wolf attacks. Wolves were about wiped out (lower 48) for a long time!

[wolfbait]

And then we have to remember that if it is a wolf attack, the USFWS along with the pro-wolf state game agencies will do all they can in blaming a wolf attack on anything but wolves, or try to hide it from the public eye.

Kenton Joel Carnegie is a perfect example, http://washingtonwolf.info/human_attacks.html 

Remember a few years ago when the guy up at Harts Pass shot a wolf he said was attacking him, funny how we never seem to hear the end of that story. How many other attacks have there been that have never reached mainstream media? Or the public eye?


Well-known wolf biologist Dr. David Mech took issue with this attack stating it couldn't really be considered an authentic attack since the girl wasn't injured more severely. It was exactly nine years when such an attack would take place. Read more@
http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolf_attacks_on_humans.html

[mossyhead]

Again- there is a reason they were nearly wiped from the face of the earth. Time to do it again; shoot, shovel and shut up! A good wolf is a dead wolf and all who support them should be stump hung!

[KFhunter]

If you can see the wolf (it knows you're there and it shows itself to you anyways) then you're being tested and threatened.

It's time to think about defending yourself, assume there's more than one wolf and keep an eye on your 6 O'clock because that's where the attack will most likely come from.

[jasnt]

I feel the same way. If a predator is that close to you knowingly then it most likely has ill intentions.

[Bango skank]

I feel the same way. If a predator is that close to you knowingly then it most likely has ill intentions.

If a large predator is staring me down at close range, it has about 2 seconds to show me its ass.  Or 

[JJB11B]

LOL I just had to google the definition of "Stump Hung" I LOL'D

[XAFSSGT]

I'm not trying to be a dick, but was it amateur hour?

You're out scouting a new hunting area, and you brought a .380?

[KFhunter]

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but was it amateur hour?

You're out scouting a new hunting area, and you brought a .380?

Never criticize a guy for bringing what they had available, if he had a .380 then obviously it was better than nothing at all.
Times past I used to scout with no weapons at all until a big predator taught me the error of my ways.   Besides, Matthew Nellessen of Friendship, Wisc is probably not on HW forum.


..and while you're at it use better language on HW, this is a family friendly site.

[bobcat]

Yeah, a 380 was better than nothing, which is what I would've had, if I were only scouting.

[Bean Counter]

So this guy didnt even have a round chambered.  I just dont get why people walk around with their guns like that.

same here. I ALWAYS carry cocked and locked.  Those seconds it takes chamber a round could be all you got

^

Its not just the extra half second it takes to rack a round: you might only have one hand available. Most self defense shootings take place at arms length and you might be using your non-gun hand to deflect the perp, blocking a knife, etc.

[XAFSSGT]

You guys are right, that was rude of me to say.

I felt a little panic come over me as I'm reading it, and all I could think of was "You brought a .380 scouting?"

As far as the language goes, sorry about that. I'm aware this is family friendly. 

[Bean Counter]

I wouldn't be willing to be shot with a .380, FWIW.