Are we losing elk and deer permits to big timber companies in SE Washington??

[JLS]

Reservation only hunts are a joke. All they do is let their family and friends hunt.

Reservations are done online.  I've used this program quite a bit over the last couple of years with only two bad experiences.  Both were remedied by WDFW.

[Fl0und3rz]

Is that 706 acres the FFTH, and is it the extent of the FFTH?  How do other landowners compare?   

Bennett Lumber LHP proposal:
• Multiple Parcels
• 9,835 Acres
• Landowner permits: 6 buck, 2 bull, 10 cow
(1 bull in following years)

1st pdf.

FWIW, this is the areas under discussion.

The Bennett Lumber property is located in Asotin, Columbia,
Garfield, and Walla Walla counties (GMUs 154, 162, 166, 172, and 178)

  2nd pdf.

[coachcw]

so how many land owners get depredation tags and sell them off ? same type of thing .

[jackelope]

Is that 706 acres the FFTH, and is it the extent of the FFTH?  How do other landowners compare?   

Bennett Lumber LHP proposal:
• Multiple Parcels
• 9,835 Acres
• Landowner permits: 6 buck, 2 bull, 10 cow
(1 bull in following years)

1st pdf.

FWIW, this is the areas under discussion.

The Bennett Lumber property is located in Asotin, Columbia,
Garfield, and Walla Walla counties (GMUs 154, 162, 166, 172, and 178)

  2nd pdf.

The 706 acre piece I was referring to is hunt by reservation land. It's #591 in the pic. The big chunk in the pic, 481, is hunt by written permission land.

[DOUBLELUNG]

That sharp pain in your backside and bloody discharge may not be hemorrhoids after all.

[HntnFsh]

I asked about access last year for my muzzy tag. Was told no access allowed. Talked to the bio over there. He said they weren't enrolled in the wdfw acess program. But may be this year. So they knew this was coming.

[rosscrazyelk]

As I have told you before Josh.. I believe this is absolutely  Bull S#%£.
No way they should be Givin any extra state tags... put the tags in the general  hunt and let the public have access.  If they want to keep  it to themselves  they have to draw just like the rest of us.
Everyone on this forum should call wdfw and let them have it...

Do you think that the forest company/land owner shouldn't be given any incentive to enroll his land into the hunt programs?  Why would any do it if there was no incentive for them?  No matter how big or small a company they have to pay a person to answer a phone and manage the program.  It would be far easier and cheaper to simply shut the gates and hunt behind them with their own land owner permits or go the way of Weyerhauser and lease it out to a few people that are easier to supervise.

If the state is gonna give them tags it should not count against our quota

[jackelope]

Special permit area for branch antlered Bulls and late deer tags.

[kirkl]

like jackelope said, not over the counter deer and elk tags they are giving them. These are special permits we have get drawn for.

[Bob33]

Special permit area for branch antlered Bulls and late deer tags.

The Dayton GMU has approximately 20 to 25 special branch antlered bull permits available per year. A loss of two would be around 8% to 10%.

[huntnphool]

As I have told you before Josh.. I believe this is absolutely  Bull S#%£.
No way they should be Givin any extra state tags... put the tags in the general  hunt and let the public have access.  If they want to keep  it to themselves  they have to draw just like the rest of us.
Everyone on this forum should call wdfw and let them have it...

Do you think that the forest company/land owner shouldn't be given any incentive to enroll his land into the hunt programs?  Why would any do it if there was no incentive for them?  No matter how big or small a company they have to pay a person to answer a phone and manage the program.  It would be far easier and cheaper to simply shut the gates and hunt behind them with their own land owner permits or go the way of Weyerhauser and lease it out to a few people that are easier to supervise.

If the state is gonna give them tags it should not count against our quota

  To the best of my knowledge elk and deer tags are sold over the counter and unless I missed something they haven't ever sold out.  Is this a special hunt draw area?  Is there something other than the fact it is private land that makes tags harder to get for these GMUs? 

 You really need to do some research!

[kirkl]

As I have told you before Josh.. I believe this is absolutely  Bull S#%£.
No way they should be Givin any extra state tags... put the tags in the general  hunt and let the public have access.  If they want to keep  it to themselves  they have to draw just like the rest of us.
Everyone on this forum should call wdfw and let them have it...

Do you think that the forest company/land owner shouldn't be given any incentive to enroll his land into the hunt programs?  Why would any do it if there was no incentive for them?  No matter how big or small a company they have to pay a person to answer a phone and manage the program.  It would be far easier and cheaper to simply shut the gates and hunt behind them with their own land owner permits or go the way of Weyerhauser and lease it out to a few people that are easier to supervise.

If the state is gonna give them tags it should not count against our quota

  To the best of my knowledge elk and deer tags are sold over the counter and unless I missed something they haven't ever sold out.  Is this a special hunt draw area?  Is there something other than the fact it is private land that makes tags harder to get for these GMUs? 

 You really need to do some research!

lol, yes, hes arguing and doesnt know what he is talking about.

[ipkus]

Special permit area for branch antlered Bulls and late deer tags.

The Dayton GMU has approximately 20 to 25 special branch antlered bull permits available per year. A loss of two would be around 8% to 10%.

Not to mention when they carved special unit 1010 out of the Dayton unit a few years ago and took a chunk of Dayton permits for it.  Now this.

Ridiculous.

[Bob33]

As I have told you before Josh.. I believe this is absolutely  Bull S#%£.
No way they should be Givin any extra state tags... put the tags in the general  hunt and let the public have access.  If they want to keep  it to themselves  they have to draw just like the rest of us.
Everyone on this forum should call wdfw and let them have it...

Do you think that the forest company/land owner shouldn't be given any incentive to enroll his land into the hunt programs?  Why would any do it if there was no incentive for them?  No matter how big or small a company they have to pay a person to answer a phone and manage the program.  It would be far easier and cheaper to simply shut the gates and hunt behind them with their own land owner permits or go the way of Weyerhauser and lease it out to a few people that are easier to supervise.

If the state is gonna give them tags it should not count against our quota

  To the best of my knowledge elk and deer tags are sold over the counter and unless I missed something they haven't ever sold out.  Is this a special hunt draw area?  Is there something other than the fact it is private land that makes tags harder to get for these GMUs? 

 You really need to do some research!

I go down to the Big 5 every year and buy my over-the-counter Dayton bull permit. A few years back, I decided to try something new and bought a Colockum OTC bull permit and shot a 380 bull. I don't know the problem is.

[huntnphool]

As I have told you before Josh.. I believe this is absolutely  Bull S#%£.
No way they should be Givin any extra state tags... put the tags in the general  hunt and let the public have access.  If they want to keep  it to themselves  they have to draw just like the rest of us.
Everyone on this forum should call wdfw and let them have it...

Do you think that the forest company/land owner shouldn't be given any incentive to enroll his land into the hunt programs?  Why would any do it if there was no incentive for them?  No matter how big or small a company they have to pay a person to answer a phone and manage the program.  It would be far easier and cheaper to simply shut the gates and hunt behind them with their own land owner permits or go the way of Weyerhauser and lease it out to a few people that are easier to supervise.

If the state is gonna give them tags it should not count against our quota

  To the best of my knowledge elk and deer tags are sold over the counter and unless I missed something they haven't ever sold out.  Is this a special hunt draw area?  Is there something other than the fact it is private land that makes tags harder to get for these GMUs? 

 You really need to do some research!

I go down to the Big 5 every year and buy my over-the-counter Dayton bull permit. A few years back, I decided to try something new and bought a Colockum OTC bull permit and shot a 380 bull. I don't know the problem is.

  Pure speculation on my part but I'd be willing to bet that unless the Bennett tags are designated spike only, they don't end up on spike bulls.