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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #240 on: January 16, 2016, 07:28:58 PM »
Crazy,It seems like it is an air tight case (sexual harassment,Sexism) to mention the easiest ones.I wonder if this goes higher in the system then just the DFW.Who all is being protected here?

When you figure out what is going on, let me know because I have no idea what is going on or why.

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #241 on: January 16, 2016, 07:35:53 PM »
I'm not sure if I can come close to figuring this out further than cleaning house and removing all the corruption and quite possible a few civil cases as well.
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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #242 on: January 16, 2016, 10:32:36 PM »
I have some catching up to do on reading some of the info from the investigation.

I finally made it thru the Phillips testimony.

The quote toward the end is jaw dropping regarding Olson and Anderson lying about Cenci.

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She -- she asked the question have you ever known Deputy Chief Cenci to bully anybody,
16 and bully, intimidate, etc., etc. And they both said well you know, he’s, uh, he’s loud and
17 he’s, uh, enthusiastic and, uh, he’s -- he’s got a fairly abrasive personality. And when we
18 got outside, I said you lied. Well, y -- uh, yeah. I said you’ve seen him bully people. Well,
19 yeah, but I didn’t wanna go on record with (ph) that. Okay.
20 Q. So w -- was it just that that they lied about?
21 A. Mm-hmm.
22 Q. And who were those guys?
23 A. Eric Anderson and Eric Olson.
24 Q. And when asked if -- if -- if he was a bully, they -- they said he was -- they described what a
25 bully is but they -- they said he wasn’t a bully?
26 A. Right.
27 Q. Okay. All right. Anything else?
28 A. No, that’s --
29 Q. We’ll conclude the interview --
30 A. Oh, the only other thing I will say is that I -- one of the questions that, um, Amy asked was
31 who else should we be talking to. And I specifically said, uh, Phil Johnson, Ed Volz, um, Bill
32 Jarmon. And to the best of my knowledge, neither Jarmon nor Volz were -- were ever
33 contacted. And I found that very strange.
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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #243 on: January 17, 2016, 05:31:06 AM »
I have some catching up to do on reading some of the info from the investigation.

I finally made it thru the Phillips testimony.

The quote toward the end is jaw dropping regarding Olson and Anderson lying about Cenci.

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She -- she asked the question have you ever known Deputy Chief Cenci to bully anybody,
16 and bully, intimidate, etc., etc. And they both said well you know, he’s, uh, he’s loud and
17 he’s, uh, enthusiastic and, uh, he’s -- he’s got a fairly abrasive personality. And when we
18 got outside, I said you lied. Well, y -- uh, yeah. I said you’ve seen him bully people. Well,
19 yeah, but I didn’t wanna go on record with (ph) that. Okay.
20 Q. So w -- was it just that that they lied about?
21 A. Mm-hmm.
22 Q. And who were those guys?
23 A. Eric Anderson and Eric Olson.
24 Q. And when asked if -- if -- if he was a bully, they -- they said he was -- they described what a
25 bully is but they -- they said he wasn’t a bully?
26 A. Right.
27 Q. Okay. All right. Anything else?
28 A. No, that’s --
29 Q. We’ll conclude the interview --
30 A. Oh, the only other thing I will say is that I -- one of the questions that, um, Amy asked was
31 who else should we be talking to. And I specifically said, uh, Phil Johnson, Ed Volz, um, Bill
32 Jarmon. And to the best of my knowledge, neither Jarmon nor Volz were -- were ever
33 contacted. And I found that very strange.

Yep, but there is evidence of plenty of lies in that material

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #244 on: January 17, 2016, 07:40:04 AM »
I remember some official that seemed to have a pretty serious interest in all this. Maybe a Sen. Pearson? Could be way off. But what I'm wondering is, is there anybody high enough in Govt. that sees things the way you do. That could at least ask Unsworth where he stands in this investigation. I cant believe that Unsworth hasn't even made acknowledged it.

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #245 on: January 17, 2016, 07:56:45 AM »
I remember some official that seemed to have a pretty serious interest in all this. Maybe a Sen. Pearson? Could be way off. But what I'm wondering is, is there anybody high enough in Govt. that sees things the way you do. That could at least ask Unsworth where he stands in this investigation. I cant believe that Unsworth hasn't even made acknowledged it.

You are correct, Senator Pearson is the one who has paid the most attention to these issues.  I believe he has not given up and is continuing to work at a resolution.  All of us, involved in this, are totally baffled by the fact that Unsworth has been totally silent on this.  We expected some type of announcement by now, even if it was the old "I have reviewed all the material and don't feel it rises to the level of personnel action" or something like that.  But nothing.  I guess Unsworth is just going to sit back, ignore this, and hope it goes away.

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #246 on: January 17, 2016, 08:00:55 AM »
I wonder how many more years Unsworth plans on working? Maybe he's close to retirement and figures he can put in another year or two and let the next guy deal with the problem.

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #247 on: January 17, 2016, 08:04:56 AM »
I wonder how many more years Unsworth plans on working? Maybe he's close to retirement and figures he can put in another year or two and let the next guy deal with the problem.
Possible I guess, but if that is his plan, he will watch all of the real game wardens disappear one by one, as they decide to escape the abusive administration.  Those game wardens can then be replaced by a team of yes men, who don't know a whitetail from a moose, but they will certainly know all about shellfish.

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #248 on: January 17, 2016, 08:07:32 AM »
I wonder how many more years Unsworth plans on working? Maybe he's close to retirement and figures he can put in another year or two and let the next guy deal with the problem.
Possible I guess, but if that is his plan, he will watch all of the real game wardens disappear one by one, as they decide to escape the abusive administration.  Those game wardens can then be replaced by a team of yes men, who don't know a whitetail from a moose, but they will certainly know all about shellfish.

I was hoping Unsworth would seriously look into this, maybe the fact he hasn't said anything means he is seriously considering what to do? Trying to give you hope! :tup:
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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #249 on: January 17, 2016, 08:09:02 AM »
I wonder how many more years Unsworth plans on working? Maybe he's close to retirement and figures he can put in another year or two and let the next guy deal with the problem.
Possible I guess, but if that is his plan, he will watch all of the real game wardens disappear one by one, as they decide to escape the abusive administration.  Those game wardens can then be replaced by a team of yes men, who don't know a whitetail from a moose, but they will certainly know all about shellfish.

I was hoping Unsworth would seriously look into this, maybe the fact he hasn't said anything means he is seriously considering what to do? Trying to give you hope! :tup:

I hope you are right.

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #250 on: January 17, 2016, 12:34:53 PM »
UC,
I'd like to see Kim Chandler's interview transcript added to your site. Especially due to the whole "boot up your ass" comment from Cenci directed towards him....

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #251 on: January 17, 2016, 06:54:39 PM »
UC,
I'd like to see Kim Chandler's interview transcript added to your site. Especially due to the whole "boot up your ass" comment from Cenci directed towards him....

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #252 on: January 17, 2016, 07:27:32 PM »
UC,
I'd like to see Kim Chandler's interview transcript added to your site. Especially due to the whole "boot up your ass" comment from Cenci directed towards him....
Your wish is my command.  I just posted it, and it will make you sick.
Thanks Todd. It certainly does make me sick. Kim's a good guy (not that the other officers aren't) and for this type of stuff to be going on is just flat out BS.

Unfortunately, I know of several other agencies where similar situations are occurring. The US Forest Service Law Enforcement program is in similar shoes. Lots of stuff online about that drama. In their case their version of Cenci was the actual Director of LE (he actually just retired and his buddy was promoted to his former position). The USFS LE Director literally slammed one of his officers (maybe a Capt.) against a wall and threatened to shove his foot up, etc. What happened? Nothing. This and all of the other issues have been brought to the actual Director of the USFS and he hasn't done anything. Sound familiar??

5 years ago most would say working as an law enforcement officer for WDFW or the USFS would be fantastic gig, can't say that anymore....

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #253 on: January 17, 2016, 07:58:14 PM »
UC,
I'd like to see Kim Chandler's interview transcript added to your site. Especially due to the whole "boot up your ass" comment from Cenci directed towards him....
Your wish is my command.  I just posted it, and it will make you sick.
Thanks Todd. It certainly does make me sick. Kim's a good guy (not that the other officers aren't) and for this type of stuff to be going on is just flat out BS.

Unfortunately, I know of several other agencies where similar situations are occurring. The US Forest Service Law Enforcement program is in similar shoes. Lots of stuff online about that drama. In their case their version of Cenci was the actual Director of LE (he actually just retired and his buddy was promoted to his former position). The USFS LE Director literally slammed one of his officers (maybe a Capt.) against a wall and threatened to shove his foot up, etc. What happened? Nothing. This and all of the other issues have been brought to the actual Director of the USFS and he hasn't done anything. Sound familiar??

5 years ago most would say working as an law enforcement officer for WDFW or the USFS would be fantastic gig, can't say that anymore....

It is going to make it damned tough for any supervisor, in either agency, to ever discipline an officer for anything.

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Re: Investigation of WDFW Enforcement Administration
« Reply #254 on: January 19, 2016, 04:06:22 PM »
The major reason WDFW enforcement fired Officer Dave Jones, was because of his handling of property held for safe-keeping (firearms held for another WDFW employee).  Keep in-mind, this was not evidence, but rather property held for safe-keeping. 

On 11/25/15 I turned in information (to WDFW), which seems to indicate Sgt. Russ Mullins (a close friend of Cenci's) broke into WDFW evidence lockers, but now it seems WDFW enforcement isn't even investigating this allegations, even though Mullins testified under oath, that he did break into the lockers.

Go to www.wdfwinvestigation.com and read "WDFW does not even investigate incident of favored sergeant breaking into evidence lockers"

It's incredible that they can get away with this hypocrisy.

 


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