Cougar Quota increase killed by Anti hunting groups.

[pianoman9701]

Let's see if this one gets printed. I doubt it. They only want their views to be read.

Cougars are at or above full carrying capacity – the total number of animals that can be sustained throughout the year without harm to the wildlife or the habitat – all over the state of WA. With the introduction of the grey wolf, there has been increased pressure on the ungulate herds (elk, deer, sheep), and increased human/wildlife conflict, statewide. As you may or may not be aware, when cougar populations exceed carrying capacity, the adolescent males are pushed further and further into human populations. This causes conflict and is a danger to both the wildlife and to human, pets, livestock, etc. Hunters are the tool of all wildlife agencies nationwide, to cull surplus animals, keeping wildlife populations healthy and abundant. Contrary to propaganda and myth, without hunters, many of our wildlife species wouldn’t exist today. The governor’s decision to pander to animal rights groups instead of relying on his hired experts in the field shows ignorance to proper wildlife management practices and stands in opposition to scientific study, contrary to claims by this organization. Wildlife management by popular opinion is mind-numbingly stupid. When the state wildlife biologists say that it’s time to thin the herd, they do so only after intensive research. You people claim to love animals, as do I. If you’re telling the truth about that, you’d support the experts in the field. I suggest that when you don’t your goals are other than those which are in keeping with wildlife’s best interests.

[westsidehntr]

Let's see if this one gets printed. I doubt it. They only want their views to be read.

Cougars are at or above full carrying capacity – the total number of animals that can be sustained throughout the year without harm to the wildlife or the habitat – all over the state of WA. With the introduction of the grey wolf, there has been increased pressure on the ungulate herds (elk, deer, sheep), and increased human/wildlife conflict, statewide. As you may or may not be aware, when cougar populations exceed carrying capacity, the adolescent males are pushed further and further into human populations. This causes conflict and is a danger to both the wildlife and to human, pets, livestock, etc. Hunters are the tool of all wildlife agencies nationwide, to cull surplus animals, keeping wildlife populations healthy and abundant. Contrary to propaganda and myth, without hunters, many of our wildlife species wouldn’t exist today. The governor’s decision to pander to animal rights groups instead of relying on his hired experts in the field shows ignorance to proper wildlife management practices and stands in opposition to scientific study, contrary to claims by this organization. Wildlife management by popular opinion is mind-numbingly stupid. When the state wildlife biologists say that it’s time to thin the herd, they do so only after intensive research. You people claim to love animals, as do I. If you’re telling the truth about that, you’d support the experts in the field. I suggest that when you don’t your goals are other than those which are in keeping with wildlife’s best interests.

My comment was very similar to yours, but your a lot better with words I'll bet it gets deleted.

[Bango skank]

W.D.F.W.?

Thouggt he was talkinh about hsus

[Bango skank]

Deleting everybodys posts except campmeats.  He must be a hsus spy!

[Bango skank]

Well pianoman yours made it.  I guess mine didnt because i pointed out the fact that the entire article is deliberate misinformation.

[kellama2001]

Let's see if this one gets printed. I doubt it. They only want their views to be read.

Cougars are at or above full carrying capacity – the total number of animals that can be sustained throughout the year without harm to the wildlife or the habitat – all over the state of WA. With the introduction of the grey wolf, there has been increased pressure on the ungulate herds (elk, deer, sheep), and increased human/wildlife conflict, statewide. As you may or may not be aware, when cougar populations exceed carrying capacity, the adolescent males are pushed further and further into human populations. This causes conflict and is a danger to both the wildlife and to human, pets, livestock, etc. Hunters are the tool of all wildlife agencies nationwide, to cull surplus animals, keeping wildlife populations healthy and abundant. Contrary to propaganda and myth, without hunters, many of our wildlife species wouldn’t exist today. The governor’s decision to pander to animal rights groups instead of relying on his hired experts in the field shows ignorance to proper wildlife management practices and stands in opposition to scientific study, contrary to claims by this organization. Wildlife management by popular opinion is mind-numbingly stupid. When the state wildlife biologists say that it’s time to thin the herd, they do so only after intensive research. You people claim to love animals, as do I. If you’re telling the truth about that, you’d support the experts in the field. I suggest that when you don’t your goals are other than those which are in keeping with wildlife’s best interests.

Well said!! 

[CAMPMEAT]

Deleting everybodys posts except campmeats.  He must be a hsus spy!

They saw the name and decided I was a liberal plant to get a rise out of the liberals themselves.....

[CAMPMEAT]

I just posted a couple more comments....

[pianoman9701]

They actually posted my comments and the expected response about trophy hunting and that man is the top killer of our beautiful wild animals. I have to acknowledge them for posting, at least. I'm not sure what i expected more than what I got. I can't believe these fanatics are on the WAG. 

[Bango skank]

I highly doubt theyll let this one in either.

Everything you are saying is operating under the assumption that mature males are the ones primarily being hunted.  While this may be true in states like idaho that allow hound hunting, here in washington an opportunity at any cat is a rare event, and likely a once in a lifetime opportunity for most hunters.  One does not pass up a subadult or female in washington.  The harvest statistics show 3 of the last 5 years having a higher female harvest than male, and average age of 2 years, so the whole thing about social structure being ruined is pretty irrelevant here since a ban on hound hunting effectively eliminates selective harvest.

[pianoman9701]

Yeah, they're not great with logic. It'll probably be tanked or someone will start crying about mommies getting killed.

[2labs]

Bango. That's a great point you bring up. Hound hunting is the ultimate management tool. Selective harvest or no harvest. Still a sport, you treed the animal your dogs did there job. That really jerked my chain when they banned hound hunting. Had a couple buddies that did it and its a very cool sport that doesn't have to be about a kill.
Good luck convincing a lib of that! Like talking too three a year old.

[Special T]

I see a t shirt in the making. Running hounds, the only form of catch and release hunting!

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[Curly]

I just posted a couple more comments....

Campmeat, I saw the stupid comment on there from someone named Diana where she called you a tool because she didn't believe you about cougars being a problem for kids waiting for the school bus.

I remember the story being on the national news about the 11 year old girl in Twisp that shot a cougar.
http://www.chron.com/hunting-fishing/article/11-year-old-Twisp-girl-kills-cougar-5270222.php
The link above is from a Houston newspaper.

[Curly]

I wonder if HSUS would rather have malnourished cougars running around starving to death with no hunting or a healthy population of cougars and some hunting?

Oh wait, no need to answer that question.......it is an easy answer.