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Bayview – Edison land?
« on: October 21, 2015, 05:16:22 AM »
What is going on with the WDFW land off of the Bayview Edison Road near the Samish River?

They have cleared the entire place and appear to be in the middle of a major project.

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2015, 07:45:14 AM »
Tidal resturation project. Esa salmon bs

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 10:08:29 AM »
That wasn’t the best piece of land to hunt but now it is useless.  I hope they eventually improve the waterfowl habitat there.

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 10:22:21 AM »
Also doing a bunch of work at the headquarters site.  Half of that is unhuntable now and closed during the week.  That project just started too right before hunting season starts very convenient.

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 03:12:50 PM »
So far these projects don't seem to benefit the waterfowl.  HQ is nothing like it used to be unfortunately.
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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2015, 03:42:19 PM »
Like I've mentioned before. HQ went to hell with the "salmon restoration", then the samish unit was next, and you can kiss any huntable areas in the bay view/Edison goodbye as well.  Nothing new. Easy to see coming.  :bash: :bash:
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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2015, 08:52:07 PM »
There is no Salmon/Tidal restoration being done on the piece of property in question or on the Samish unit for that matter. It is a wetland restoration project. See here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/sepa/2013/13073dns.pdf

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2015, 08:52:56 PM »
These project dont really help the salmon that much either. Its a joke

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 10:49:52 PM »
There is no Salmon/Tidal restoration being done on the piece of property in question or on the Samish unit for that matter. It is a wetland restoration project. See here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/sepa/2013/13073dns.pdf
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It's going to be prime field mouse habitat  :tup:

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2015, 05:18:49 AM »
Wetland restoration = young salmon habitat. Wdfw can call it what they want. The bird hunting will be worse than it was when crops were grown.
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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 07:24:53 PM »
Wetland restoration = young salmon habitat. Wdfw can call it what they want. The bird hunting will be worse than it was when crops were grown.

If there is no dike breach then please do tell how this becomes a salmon habitat project? Did you bother to read the document in the link I posted? There never were crops grown on the property in question. Moist soil management and swales make pretty good waterfowl habitat compared to a field of Reed Canary Grass and other Noxious weeds.

I hear lot's of whining about salmon restoration projects. Headquarters...Whaaaaaaaaaa!. What did you do about it when the project was proposed? What about Leque island, Fir Island Farms, and the Island Unit?

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2015, 07:53:50 PM »
Crops have absolutely been grown in every one of the units mentioned.  Quality of waterfowl units on most of the west side are going in the tank. Let's not kid ourselves.  Main reason I fly home to Alaska to bird hunt. Western Washington just isn't that good anymore.
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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2015, 08:41:39 PM »
Again, If there is no dike breach then please do tell how this becomes a salmon habitat project?

Did you bother to read the document in the link I posted?

One more time, There never were crops grown on the property in question.
(The property being referred to by the O.P. is the piece of WDFW property next to the dike near the mouth of the Samish river.)

It has always been a Reed Canary infested POS for as long as I can remember. (prime field mouse habitat)

Yes, your public lands are being used for salmon restoration projects. Yes, crops have traditionally been grown on those properties to feed waterfowl. I never stated otherwise.

Again, What did you do about it?

Nevermind... just fly to Alaska to hunt ducks.  :bash:

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2015, 08:54:27 PM »
This is why I quit ducking ...Luckily I have seen some of the best waterfowl hunting this state had to offer ...Nothing like it was 25 yrs ago ...I could hunt just about anywhere I felt like it ...Private or not .. now its nothing but a joke ..telling a hunter where he has to sit tells it all ...how can anyone get excited to hunt these public spots where they put up a blind and tell you to sit here ????  There is no way in heck I could hunt like this ..you sit here but the ducks are going over there !!!  lmao ....They can have it all

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2015, 06:07:14 AM »
There is no Salmon/Tidal restoration being done on the piece of property in question or on the Samish unit for that matter. It is a wetland restoration project. See here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/sepa/2013/13073dns.pdf

I read it 3Peakes - thanks for that link.

"Description of Proposal:
The primary goals of the project are to diversify wetland habitat and restore natural functions to benefit wildlife. The project involves creating depressions, swales, basins, and mounds in a 103.9 acre flat field, planting native plants, installing habitat log structures, removing drain tiles, creating a moist soil management area for wildlife, and using spoils to create a parking area and pad for a portable toilet. The project area is adjacent to the Samish River and is separated from the river by a dike, which is managed by the local diking district. The dike will not be altered as part of this project."

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2015, 06:53:52 AM »
Again, If there is no dike breach then please do tell how this becomes a salmon habitat project?

Did you bother to read the document in the link I posted?

One more time, There never were crops grown on the property in question.
(The property being referred to by the O.P. is the piece of WDFW property next to the dike near the mouth of the Samish river.)

It has always been a Reed Canary infested POS for as long as I can remember. (prime field mouse habitat)

Yes, your public lands are being used for salmon restoration projects. Yes, crops have traditionally been grown on those properties to feed waterfowl. I never stated otherwise.

Again, What did you do about it?

Nevermind... just fly to Alaska to hunt ducks.  :bash:

Ok internet tough guy. No need to get your feathers all ruffed. 

We will see the results in the next couple years.  IMO the hunting will fall off.  Just like the other "habitat improvement" projects that have taken place in the last 10-15 years.

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2015, 07:29:27 AM »
there was never a "plan" to alter the dike on Ebey Island either. Mother Nature finished it off and it hasn't been repaired in the 10 years since. Rumor had it there was some "help"
Ebey used to be a decent walk-in area. now you pretty much need a boat or other flotation device to safely hunt it.


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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2015, 07:52:19 AM »
Since its not salmon restoration, where is the $ coming from? Didnt say anything in the article. The one good thing is a parking area so that there is a place for fishermen to park instead of having to pay the access fee to the adjacent  land owner.
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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2015, 06:20:35 PM »
Ok internet tough guy. No need to get your feathers all ruffed.


No internet tough guy act here. No feathers ruffled. Just checking your reading comprehension. That's all.

I'm on your side in this. I get it. But, the question is still what did you do about it? Fly to Alaska to hunt ducks? That makes you part of the problem in my opinion. I hear lot's of bitching, but only know a hand full of guys that have stepped up to the plate and actually tried to stop it, fight it, actually do something about it. It's like the bumper sticker "If You Don't Vote, Don't Bitch".

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As far as I can see the funding came from the USDA.


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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2015, 07:45:36 PM »
No bitching here. I am into reality. All we can do is vote. And I still managed to vote while spending most of my time, for the last 10 years in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I'm sure your friends put up a decent fight, but you are fighting a loosing battle in this state.
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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2015, 08:04:49 PM »
Hmmm strange. The only other funding ive heard them do here in the valley was hire guys with night vision to shoot elk in the valley.

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Re: Bayview – Edison land?
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2015, 08:13:49 PM »
 :yeah:

We were just talking about that goat rope from last year. Pretty expensive "sharpshooters" that couldn't find elk during daylight hours.

Those tags should've went to the local hunters or even up for auction.  But what happens, a bunch of money gets wasted on shooters to thin the herd.

Disgusting. Those tags should've gone to sportsmen. And we had no say in the matter.
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