Baiting on the chopping block

[BULLBLASTER]

Maybe not such a bad thing? Hunting should stay as it has always been for thousands of years. Back to the basics of actual hunting with stick and string. Getting hunting back closer to the way it was may be a good for the natural scheme of things.

Or further back then that when you would light the forest on fire and chase herds off cliffs.  Spears and atlatls are where it's at.

Maybe we can live in caves and hunt mastodons while we're at it. Will one of us maybe even invent a wheel? 

[singleshot12]

Not expecting anyone here(or in this modern world) to ever understand or get that philosophy tho

[winshooter88]

Whoever said in the other thread that only 5 people wanted things changed that testified at the commission meeting either weren't paying attention or have a great set of rose colored glasses. About 35-40% wanted no change and about 35% wanted limits on the amount of bait, (or were ok with it), and the rest wanted to ban baiting all together.

[Rainier10]

The only way that you are going to stop these outfitters is close the GMU down that they are hunting and keep closing GMU's as they move to one that is open, which is exactly what the anti hunters want.  If you limit baiting to 10 gallons, they are going to divide up those cheap truckloads of apples and put 10 gallons every 200 yards or feet or whatever the distance is that they said you had to be away from one bait site to another.  You can still have a truckload of apples spread out over 2 or 3 acres, you don't think that is still going to draw deer?

Limit it even further and they will just put in a food plot, sure it is more money and more work but they will just charge more for the hunt.

You don't impose a statewide rule to try to get a few individuals to act the way you want them to. They are going to find a way to get around the rules.

[Rainier10]

Whoever said in the other thread that only 5 people wanted things changed that testified at the commission meeting either weren't paying attention or have a great set of rose colored glasses. About 35-40% wanted no change and about 35% wanted limits on the amount of bait, (or were ok with it), and the rest wanted to ban baiting all together.

Well they say if you have three different witnesses each one is going to see it differently. That is why I was asking what your opinion of the percentages was.  People hear and see what they want to hear sometimes.

I am wondering what the commission took away from the meeting and what they heard.

[cboom]

The only way that you are going to stop these outfitters is close the GMU down that they are hunting and keep closing GMU's as they move to one that is open, which is exactly what the anti hunters want.  If you limit baiting to 10 gallons, they are going to divide up those cheap truckloads of apples and put 10 gallons every 200 yards or feet or whatever the distance is that they said you had to be away from one bait site to another.  You can still have a truckload of apples spread out over 2 or 3 acres, you don't think that is still going to draw deer?

Limit it even further and they will just put in a food plot, sure it is more money and more work but they will just charge more for the hunt.

You don't impose a statewide rule to try to get a few individuals to act the way you want them to. They are going to find a way to get around the rules.

I may be way off but seems to me the easiest solution to this would just outlaw baiting for commercial hunts/outfitter hunts? I have been on several guided hunts and none involved bait. I would never dream of paying money to go hunt over a bait pile, but would have no problem hunting over bait I put out.

[Bango skank]

The only way that you are going to stop these outfitters is close the GMU down that they are hunting and keep closing GMU's as they move to one that is open, which is exactly what the anti hunters want.  If you limit baiting to 10 gallons, they are going to divide up those cheap truckloads of apples and put 10 gallons every 200 yards or feet or whatever the distance is that they said you had to be away from one bait site to another.  You can still have a truckload of apples spread out over 2 or 3 acres, you don't think that is still going to draw deer?

Limit it even further and they will just put in a food plot, sure it is more money and more work but they will just charge more for the hunt.

You don't impose a statewide rule to try to get a few individuals to act the way you want them to. They are going to find a way to get around the rules.

I may be way off but seems to me the easiest solution to this would just outlaw baiting for commercial hunts/outfitter hunts? I have been on several guided hunts and none involved bait. I would never dream of paying money to go hunt over a bait pile, but would have no problem hunting over bait I put out.

Never happen, thats too logical

[Hunting7mm]

Well to be fair they called hunters and got a lot saying to ban it, more than 50% for deer and higher for Elk.

I never got a call....

[Bango skank]

Well to be fair they called hunters and got a lot saying to ban it, more than 50% for deer and higher for Elk.

I never got a call....

I did not get called, nobody i know got called, and i havent seen anybody on this forum say they got called

[buckfvr]

No one called me or anyone I know or anyone they know...............

[bobcat]

This is the summary of the baiting proposals presented at the April meeting last year:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2015/04/apr09_2015_16_summary.pdf


You'll notice the proposed WAC that placed a limit on the amount of bait had a limit of 30 gallons. It had previously been 10 gallons, but they revised it to 30 gallons due to input received at the March meeting, which was in Moses Lake, just as it is was this year.

I'm wondering why they didn't keep it at 30 gallons? Since they changed it back to the originally proposed 10 gallons, does that mean this is the option they're going to pick?

Also of interest might be the presentation from last year's meeting:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2015/04/apr09_2015_16_presentation.pdf

[Rainier10]

Thanks for posting those.  Seems like it was pretty overwhelming at the meeting last year to not make a change.  Sounds like it might have been a little less lopsided this year.  I hope that it stays as is for this next year.

[predatorpro]

Why don't we just make hunting illegal in one go instead of doing it slowly?

[bear hunter]

 

Why don't we just make hunting illegal in one go instead of doing it slowly?

[emac]

Why don't we just make hunting illegal in one go instead of doing it slowly?

Because the anti's wouldn't have anything to do. They want to just keep chipping away so it's a slow painful death.

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