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muzzy or archery
« on: November 23, 2015, 09:36:52 AM »
Alright fellas, I recently received a bunch of Bass Pro gift cards for a birthday and am in a bit of a pickle. I have been wanting to increase the amount of time  I get to spend in the woods and want to go in for multi season this year. I just can't decide if I want to go muzzy or archery. I am kind of leaning towards muzzy, but honestly I can still get swayed either way. So, what is your preferred hunting method and why?

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2015, 09:38:40 AM »
they have given more areas for muzzy this yr however archery still gets more and better seasons. Good luck in either. Squidward

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2015, 09:44:09 AM »
I would say go with archery due to the longer early season. 13 days for archery versus only 7 for muzzleloader. Plus the archery season is during the rut. Muzzleloader is after the rut.

Also late season archery opportunities are much better.

You could also hunt muzzleloader season with a bow if you wish, but of course you can't hunt archery season with a muzzleloader.

So purchasing a bow will definitely allow you to get the most out of a multi season tag.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2015, 09:48:28 AM »
I would say go with archery due to the longer early season. 13 days for archery versus only 7 for muzzleloader. Plus the archery season is during the rut. Muzzleloader is after the rut.

Also late season archery opportunities are much better.

You could also hunt muzzleloader season with a bow if you wish, but of course you can't hunt archery season with a muzzleloader.

So purchasing a bow will definitely allow you to get the most out of a multi season tag.

I've been wondering the same thing since I want to freshen up hunting again and be able to hunt during the rut.  I have read on other threads that opening or second day muzzy guy's seem to hit the peak end of the rut.  Any truth to this?
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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2015, 09:50:32 AM »

I would say go with archery due to the longer early season. 13 days for archery versus only 7 for muzzleloader. Plus the archery season is during the rut. Muzzleloader is after the rut.

Also late season archery opportunities are much better.

You could also hunt muzzleloader season with a bow if you wish, but of course you can't hunt archery season with a muzzleloader.

So purchasing a bow will definitely allow you to get the most out of a multi season tag.

I've been wondering the same thing since I want to freshen up hunting again and be able to hunt during the rut.  I have read on other threads that opening or second day muzzy guy's seem to hit the peak end of the rut.  Any truth to this?

Not in my opinion.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2015, 09:55:07 AM »
I would say go with archery due to the longer early season. 13 days for archery versus only 7 for muzzleloader. Plus the archery season is during the rut. Muzzleloader is after the rut.

Also late season archery opportunities are much better.

You could also hunt muzzleloader season with a bow if you wish, but of course you can't hunt archery season with a muzzleloader.

So purchasing a bow will definitely allow you to get the most out of a multi season tag.

Great info Bobcat! I hadn't really thought of this. This might make the wife mad haha

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2015, 10:48:45 AM »

I would say go with archery due to the longer early season. 13 days for archery versus only 7 for muzzleloader. Plus the archery season is during the rut. Muzzleloader is after the rut.

Also late season archery opportunities are much better.

You could also hunt muzzleloader season with a bow if you wish, but of course you can't hunt archery season with a muzzleloader.

So purchasing a bow will definitely allow you to get the most out of a multi season tag.

I've been wondering the same thing since I want to freshen up hunting again and be able to hunt during the rut.  I have read on other threads that opening or second day muzzy guy's seem to hit the peak end of the rut.  Any truth to this?

Not in my opinion.

I bought a bow this season to practise for next moving from Muzzy to Archery.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2015, 10:52:36 AM »
If you do go archery and have never done it before.  Please make sure you do your practice and shoot within your comfortable ranger.  Its really a matter of inches with archery.  Its been quite the learning experience for me since changing over from Modern.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2015, 11:32:03 AM »
If you do go archery and have never done it before.  Please make sure you do your practice and shoot within your comfortable ranger.  Its really a matter of inches with archery.  Its been quite the learning experience for me since changing over from Modern.

Will do, I've been hunting Modern my whole life.  All of my previous hunting has been in Alaska where there really isn't a benefit to archery hunting.  Since moving here in last January I can already see a benefit to switching to archery with longer seasons, and not joining the pumpkin patch which I have already experienced with west side black tail.
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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2015, 12:22:33 PM »
If you do go archery and have never done it before.  Please make sure you do your practice and shoot within your comfortable ranger.  Its really a matter of inches with archery.  Its been quite the learning experience for me since changing over from Modern.

I have some experience with a bow, but if I go that route, I plan on getting my rig set up soon and have a range a few minutes from my house that i can get onto anytime.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2015, 05:23:54 PM »
If you do go archery and have never done it before.  Please make sure you do your practice and shoot within your comfortable ranger.  Its really a matter of inches with archery.  Its been quite the learning experience for me since changing over from Modern.

I have some experience with a bow, but if I go that route, I plan on getting my rig set up soon and have a range a few minutes from my house that i can get onto anytime.

Sounds good.  It can be a very rewarding experience. 

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2015, 07:47:09 PM »
If you had to choose one go bow. THat way if you pull a multiseason tag you could hunt muzzy and archery with your bow... Archery is tough though but fun. I have been in elk and real close each year during archery but have yet to take a shot. But it's fun and I love talkin with the elk. Plus with archery it's a little easier to draw special permits (so they say....hahah). Bows are way more fun to shoot too haha

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2015, 04:53:31 PM »
archery no question, in all honesty it blows my mind guys do anything but.... calling in a screaming bull to 10 yrds or less is as good as it gets.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2015, 07:32:13 AM »
In the last few years so many guys have switched to archery. I have the multiseason tag this year and have been able to hunt each season. In the areas I hunt, the archery pressure is the same as the rifle pressure. Not that long ago there were WAY more rifle hunters. With bows shooting out to 90+ yards these days and the two week season I can't believe everyone hasn't switched. My guess is that if WA changed their point system and a guy could put in for rifle tags but hunt archery if he didn't draw that everyone who didn't draw would hunt archery.  :twocents:

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2015, 07:39:47 AM »
Will you be strictly be hunting Wa or do you plan to venture out to another State?
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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2015, 07:57:11 AM »
maybe you will get more gift cards for xmas and you can get both :dunno:. I'm with the census if you are looking for more time in to hunt go archery

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2015, 08:06:59 AM »
In the last few years so many guys have switched to archery. I have the multiseason tag this year and have been able to hunt each season. In the areas I hunt, the archery pressure is the same as the rifle pressure. Not that long ago there were WAY more rifle hunters. With bows shooting out to 90+ yards these days and the two week season I can't believe everyone hasn't switched. My guess is that if WA changed their point system and a guy could put in for rifle tags but hunt archery if he didn't draw that everyone who didn't draw would hunt archery.  :twocents:
I talked to a few guys this year during rifle that are going to archery next year.  They went along with friends that do archery and got to see lots of elk, bulls of all sizes included and were able find them quickly due to vocals.  During rifle, they saw no elk at all, and the reports from other camps that did see elk saw no bulls.  And this year, lots of rifle guys went to muzzy due to the expanded early GMUs.  It really is getting to be a ghost town during rifle season.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2015, 08:16:59 AM »
Will you be strictly be hunting Wa or do you plan to venture out to another State?
At the moment I plan to only hunt here in WA. I am completely open to hunting elsewhere. Honestly, still pretty novice, and kind of learning as I go. I'm on the west side, but going east isn't an issue. Also not worried about finding a trophy, just want to put in the work and get some meat in the freezer.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2015, 08:28:06 AM »
In the last few years so many guys have switched to archery. I have the multiseason tag this year and have been able to hunt each season. In the areas I hunt, the archery pressure is the same as the rifle pressure. Not that long ago there were WAY more rifle hunters. With bows shooting out to 90+ yards these days and the two week season I can't believe everyone hasn't switched. My guess is that if WA changed their point system and a guy could put in for rifle tags but hunt archery if he didn't draw that everyone who didn't draw would hunt archery.  :twocents:

the bows shooting out to 90+ yards is the biggest issue I see with archery nowadays.  I have a seen a lot of people switching to archery and taking shots that are way too far outside their capability.  Just because the bow is capable of it, doesn't mean they should be doing it.  This is one of the bigger issues I see happening with the trend nowadays.  Too many people switching over, not practicing and taking stupid shots. 

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2015, 08:37:14 PM »
I have been shooting a bow since I was 9.  I can hit a sheet of paper at 60 yards, .. would never take a shot at an animal less then 35 yards.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2015, 06:45:10 PM »
I have done both, but have found Muzzy to be more productive.  Makes a big difference in the jungles.

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2015, 06:54:38 PM »
I just took the master hunter test and the data shows muzzleloaders have the greatest success, 23% I think.... That being said I'm a bow hunter.  :P

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2015, 09:41:01 PM »
I just took the master hunter test and the data shows muzzleloaders have the greatest success, 23% I think.... That being said I'm a bow hunter.  :P

where you seeing that data?  is that MH only? 

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2015, 10:11:04 PM »
See guys giving up on archery after tiring of losing animals.  Not a factor east of cascades but westside reprod + rain = lost game.   

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2015, 10:16:05 PM »
I would recommend Muzzy. I believe it is much  easier to become proficient with the Muzzy.  I think bow hunters have a much smaller margin of error. Bow hunting seems to be a year round commitment to get really good. I really respect the effort it takes to be a good bow hunter.  A bad shot/hit with a bow yikes :yike: hard to recover and a heart sick hunter. Muzzy bad hits are more forgiving. If you have to time and place to commit to practice then that is a different story. Both are fun to shoot, both have some good late seasons.   :twocents:
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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2015, 10:18:37 PM »
Muzzy would be the way to go if you want to just kill an elk

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2015, 10:34:18 PM »
 :yeah:

   Archery will certainly hit the rut regardless. But Depending on area and dates Muzzy may actually get you more "peak" action.

   While getting close with bow is important, thats only part of the battle. getting the shot off is the other part. I think many folks underestimate the challenge of drawing, aiming and releasing while trying to remain relatively undetected. A much easier proposition with a loaded muzzleloader and faster projectile.

   But not dealing with all that smoke and noise is worth it to me :chuckle:

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Re: muzzy or archery
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2015, 12:27:13 PM »
A few of the archery guys I know say going bow requires them to scout more to find areas they can actually operate in.  They don't mess with the brushy, steep slopes like they could with muzzy/rifle.  So, they have to find all the benches/saddles/flat creek bottoms ahead of time.  Then when they find the herds they either jump ahead to wait in those spots or follow the herd into them.  But said they don't bother trying to pull a bull until they can get onto the flatter stuff and move around for positioning and concealment.  Might just be their own limitations, but kind of described it as why take a low percentage shot when they will probably be in position for a high percentage shot in a short while.  They kind of would bundle up their gear when climbing up the nastier hills that even suck with a rifle.  The shot is not much of a concern, though, for the muzzy or rifle.

 


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