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Hydatid cyst
« on: December 03, 2015, 03:08:44 PM »
Has anyone heard of hydatid cysts. I hear they were brought here by wolves and now starting to infect elk and are extremely dangerous to humans.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 03:10:26 PM »
I hear they are dangerous to humans and a result of wolves

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 03:14:58 PM »
Some reading for you. I don't know anything about them but your post made me curious so I started looking. Looks like they are nasty.

https://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/wildlife/diseaseEchinococcusWolves.pdf

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2015, 03:15:52 PM »
Without any research, sounds made up and awfully resembles scare tactics propaganda.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2015, 05:23:23 PM »
Without any research, sounds made up and awfully resembles scare tactics propaganda.

It's not made up, it is real, and yes it's used for scare tactics propaganda.  I'm amazed people are not informed about this, we have wolves in Washington and people should know what this is, how to avoid it and recognize when their harvested animal has it. 

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2015, 05:26:29 PM »
It's real, it can be a problem, you should be careful.

"Extreme danger" is an enormous overstatement, though. Makes it sound like Ebola or something. It is certainly NOT "extremely dangerous."

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 05:29:36 PM »
It's real, it can be a problem, you should be careful.

"Extreme danger" is an enormous overstatement, though. Makes it sound like Ebola or something. It is certainly NOT "extremely dangerous."

 :yeah:  That's the propaganda portion  :chuckle: 

What concerns me the most is pets eating deer/elk carcasses from successful hunters or finding road kill, and then dropping eggs all over the yard for kids to get into.

This will be more and more prevalent as time goes on and the predator/prey worm cycle is fully resolved.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2015, 05:40:43 PM by KFhunter »

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2015, 05:53:55 PM »
Yeah, I did some reading on it. Same conclusion you guys have. Real? Yes! Scary? well, not really. Because of our new wolves? A little....

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2015, 05:59:52 PM »
A quick search shows there are threads on Hunt WA starting in 2011 on the topic.
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2015, 11:52:19 AM »
Interesting, says you are in extreme danger yet shows a picture of a guy touching it with bare hands.

gotta be judicious with propaganda or pretty soon people stop taking you serious.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2015, 11:57:38 AM »
I don't know about you guys but I clean my elk the gutless method. I think it's beyond ridiculous that we have to deal with some infectious life threating disease brought here and spreading by worthless vermits. Kill um all.  Now that bears are in hibernation magic meats can be used with little incidental casualties.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2015, 12:02:27 PM »
Zoonotic diseases are nothing new.  Tuberculosis is much more dangerous and has been around for many years.  Brucellosis can also be a concern, as can many other diseases.  I get it you hate wolves, but they are hardly the epicenter of zoonotic hazards to humans when handling wild game.

Bottom line, wear gloves and use your head.

https://www.avma.org/public/Health/Pages/Disease-Precautions-for-Hunters.aspx
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2015, 12:03:46 PM »
I think it's beyond ridiculous that we have to deal with some infectious life threating disease brought here and spreading by worthless vermits.

 Shouldn't this be moved to the politics section? :rolleyes:
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2015, 07:31:13 PM »
William J. Foreyt, Professor of Veterinary Microbiology and Pathology at the College of Veterinary Medicine, WSU. Pullman has written a report that is published in the Journal of Wildlife Diseases, Vol. 45, No. 4, Oct. 2009 titled   Echinococcus granulosus in Gray Wolves and Ungulates in Idaho and Montana.
I got a copy from him at the Wash. State Trapper's meeting a few years ago.  He will send you one if you contact him.
I have his email if any one wants to PM me, I will pass it along to you.
Scientifically written and documented, but interesting.
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 07:49:02 PM »
Are they dangerous for Wolves? Maybe it will help keep their population down or better...

Did some research, they are in fact dangerous for humans.

“It is a silent killer,” Acker said. Humans can unknowingly carry the cysts for 20 years until it becomes critical. When cysts rupture, the person enters anaphylactic shock and dies within 10 minutes, Acker said.

Works cited: http://www.powelltribune.com/news/item/12178-‘the-wolf-tapeworm’
« Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 07:55:05 PM by Duckslayer89 »

 


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