Free: Contests & Raffles.
I'm just glad I got to see a pic. When it comes to hunting there are many ways to skin that cat. Some own great property, some use wealth, some use youth and physical advantages, some are just ridiculously lucky when it comes to tags, some are tremendously skilled, some have special ceded rights, and some have varying combinations of all of the above. I'm just happy people are out perpetuating the sport that I love and hope that it will continue for generations to come. I never would think to begrudge anyone success, as long as they hunt in an honest, ethical manner and show due respect to the game. I do not respect any Hunter more or less based on the size of their kill. I respect them based upon their ethics and their dedication and devotion to the sport. I'm personally ecstatic mr Agnew chooses to spend his dollars in ways that benefit the sport versus dumping a boatload of money into passing gun control or banning some aspect of hunting, etc. I have a certain hard-core style that I personally hunt, and I hunt that way because I enjoy it and because it's how I get the most fulfillment out of the sport; but I have zero problem with people doing things A different way and I hope they find great fulfillment in whatever manner they choose to hunt. I'm far more jealous of the amount of time Mr. Agnew gets to spend hunting than I am of his trophys and I hope that someday I will find myself in that position. I can't think of anything I'd rather do than spend three months hunting; regardless of the outcome. The trophy lies in the hunt itself; the animal is just a bonus.
...Well yes and no I would hope we are all similar in that mindset. I know I care less what you think or anyone thinks of how I hunt. I was simply pointing this out for comparison purposes. But for folk that don't care, they are awfully picky about getting their pictures and details posted up here. ( Not speaking for Dan directly, as he seems fairly freewheeling with the pics )
I think maybe some of those preaching "we should all just get along" and pointing fingers at the "elitists" need to down a large spoonful of their own medicine and try just getting along.I get what AK is saying. And don't think he was trying to disrespect the hunter and certainly not the buck. When viewed as a sport, hunting is special because it has no set "standards". In all other sports the "best" all compete on the same field. And earn respect among peers for play on that field. NFL fields are all the same, Goals are the same, even a deflated ball is cause for a lynching Basketball hoops are all set to the same height. Would anyone respect Lebron if he was dunking on a 8 foot basket? Yet hunting has none of these set in stone rules. Sure we have regulations but even these can certainly be bypassed with money. So it is natural that hunters will come up with their own yardstick for measuring success. From my limited interactions, I think for many hunters the " Pro field" is OTC tags or possibly general draw tags, on open to public land, and by and large unguided. That is the playing field that is the hardest to win at consistently. Not only for the hunter but also the hunted. Does that mean a guy wont ever dump a rut crazed 200 inch buck in the Methow in October from the pickup? Or that the guy who hunts a governor rut tag wont get a chance at 150 class buck on private ground with Mossback? Of course not, but which is more plausible? I do think some of these hunters hunt hard and care about a quality hunt. And some guys that buy a OTC tag and a 30 pack don't. Its all relative, but In the end when comparing apples to apples the guys with the 30 pack was still pitting himself against all the other competition against animals that knew best how to survive it. You cannot say that about this hunt. I am happy for the hunter and the conservation dollars he puts toward the state/animals. I do question whether that money will ever impact me in any way or if these hunters attitude toward stewardship and animal and land access and availability. Are even close to mine. But in the end it is their money and the system is working for them, Kudos. Most importantly can we please get off the " they must be elitist" or " here comes the jealousy crew" bandwagon. I think I will go try to kill a frustration Doe this weekend just to get my head straight
I don't see why people think It's okay to crap on their hunts just because they have money. People would never comment on "normal" people's hunts like they do with Dan and guys like him. It would be be incredibly rude. Everyone would chastise the commenter. Folks would say "no wonder people won't post success photos on here anymore" or "comments like that are ruining this site". But no, Since the hunter is deemed too rich it is okay to crap on his hunt. It doesn't matter how hard he hunted because he has money so therefore he didn't actually hunt. Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk
Quote from: grundy53 on December 04, 2015, 10:42:28 PMI don't see why people think It's okay to crap on their hunts just because they have money. People would never comment on "normal" people's hunts like they do with Dan and guys like him. It would be be incredibly rude. Everyone would chastise the commenter. Folks would say "no wonder people won't post success photos on here anymore" or "comments like that are ruining this site". But no, Since the hunter is deemed too rich it is okay to crap on his hunt. It doesn't matter how hard he hunted because he has money so therefore he didn't actually hunt. Sent from my E6782 using TapatalkHow I was raised it mattered a hell of a lot more how dependable of a person you were in the field and what you did to contribute to putting meat on the table for the hunting party. I guess that's where things differ; I was raised its all about the hunt and not so much about the size of the kill. Some of my best family friends now hunt almost exclusively through guides and I have the utmost respect for them. They are impressive hunters and reliable woodsman. I certainly am not crapping on this guys hunts because he has money. I'm just NOT going to give him blind praise because he killed a large animal. Especially when the large animals he kills are on paid tags and in areas where the public is not free to hunt. If he hunts a public OTC tag every now and then, honestly that would change the way I feel about this. Sounds like he is a good guy SO GOOD FOR HIM, I mean that. Sounds like a lot know nothing about him and think he is amazing for killing large elk and deer every year on paid tags and exclusive guided hunts. For me "the hunt" is about so much more than that.
Bearpaw, curious as to why my post was deleted? It was in no way disrespectful. Anybody who has actually hunted or been to the Jicarilla would understand what I wrote and chuckle. You should make sure you read what was written instead of targeting.
Great buck! I see the beer business is still treating him well. We use to do a lot of business with him.
