Well we gave it all we had and even had help from two of the best hunters i know. Karl and micheal thank u so much for all your help. We ended up eating both cow tags but the memories that were made beat the punching of a tag. To see my little girl soark when we made our first chase was unbelivable. That stock ended with a 700 yard shot that missed by an inch. Had my buddies borrowed gun for the kid. Thanks griz231. All in all we had a hell of a first elk hunt.