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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2015, 10:09:20 AM »
There was a thread on here about it. Ill have  to try and find it. Was in regaurds to night time spotlighti g I think

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2015, 11:47:05 AM »
Pianoman9701 outdoor advocacy proposed night hunting weapons restriction feb 9 2012

Cant figure out how to link it from my phone.
Go down about a dozen reponces and Outdoor gaurdian has the details on the proposal.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2015, 11:51:29 AM »
Supported by ignoramuses at the wdfw who think coyote hunting should be limited to 22cal rifles and bird shot.   
Who said that?

I was a proposal about 5 years ago.
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2015, 11:53:16 AM »
On the second page bobcat provides the link to the comission meeting.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2015, 12:14:49 PM »
The idea didn't last long.

For what it was worth, this was an ill-conceived idea, with good intentions. We looked at a number of other state’s night hunting rules, and many constrained the caliber. The original thought was to limit projectiles  that travel great distances for public safety sake, and provide some deterrence for those really out looking for deer and elk at night with larger calibers. Of course,  many elk and deer have been poached with .22 caliber rifles. So the deterrence factor probably isn’t  there - it can be argued that .22 caliber rounds travel  just as far as some larger calibers, and many popular predator calibers would be excluded by this provision. The idea no longer seems like a good one and you won’t see caliber restrictions in any future proposals from the WDFW Law Enforcement Bureau.   
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2015, 12:36:39 PM »
It was ill conceived but it demonstrates the lack of understanding that we are constantly faced with. It you look at page 16, it states that this ill conceived proposal was brought by the department. If you have people that ignorant on the subject matter making proposals why should we view the wdfw as an asset to the hunting community?

This specific example sticks with me/irritates me. There are many other examples that either point to severe incompetence, deception, or outright lies.   How is it that no one from the department can't seem to speak up with some kind of coherent voice from in the department on issues? In the past they could have on hounds baiting bears,the wolf issue as well as a slew of salmon related issues.

In my business if I don't have an answer to an important question I find some one who is either an expert or has a bunch of experience. Would it really take that much effort to ask someone in the know? Is it that hard to find someone in the department that predator hunts?
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2015, 12:49:52 PM »
It was ill conceived but it demonstrates the lack of understanding that we are constantly faced with. It you look at page 16, it states that this ill conceived proposal was brought by the department. If you have people that ignorant on the subject matter making proposals why should we view the wdfw as an asset to the hunting community?

This specific example sticks with me/irritates me. There are many other examples that either point to severe incompetence, deception, or outright lies.   How is it that no one from the department can't seem to speak up with some kind of coherent voice from in the department on issues? In the past they could have on hounds baiting bears,the wolf issue as well as a slew of salmon related issues.

In my business if I don't have an answer to an important question I find some one who is either an expert or has a bunch of experience. Would it really take that much effort to ask someone in the know? Is it that hard to find someone in the department that predator hunts?
To be fair the proposed restriction was not for all coyote hunting, but only coyote hunting at night.

If you business doesn't have any one who ever proposes bad ideas, I suspect they're successful. :tup:
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2015, 06:16:00 PM »
If it was an isolated suggestion that one thing, bit its just one in a long string.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #70 on: December 25, 2015, 11:30:17 AM »
The Dreaded Confirmation of Hydatid Disease in a Human in Northern Rocky Mountain Region

http://www.skinnymoose.com/rawwar/2011/05/31/the-dreaded-confirmation-of-hydatid-disease-in-a-human-in-northern-rocky-mountains-region/

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Nearly half of my liver was removed. Two or more cysts on the right lobe were aspirated but found benign. The doctors were pleased with the surgery but insisted I stay on the Albendazol for another 3 months, have blood word done for the next three months, and a CT scan at least once a year for the rest of my life to watch the other smaller cysts.

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(NOTE: This brave lady’s husband reportedly stood up during a public meeting and described how, contrary to wolf managers’ claims, his wife had a Hydatid Cyst removed from her liver which cost $63,000, and said they were hoping and praying other cysts had not been missed. His wife gave me copies of her pathology reports, wrote the foregoing story and title, and provided her medical photographs for publication in The Outdoorsman. I promised not to publish their names or clues to their location to prevent their being harassed by the wolf worshippers who abuse and threaten those who tell the truth about the downside of living with wolves. – ED)

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