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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #420 on: December 27, 2015, 05:19:46 PM »
can anyone answer my ? Can you chamber 7 wssm in an AR-15?

It can't be done on a AR15.

It can be done on a AR10. There ar AR10's chambered in .300 SAUM. The magazine is the issue. Complete custom mags.

I'm going to build a AR10 in .300 WSM shortly. I want the custom mags in hand before I commit.

Interesting.

I imagine if you could do a .300 WSM you could do a .325 WSM?

That would be a pretty wicked elk/bear platform for he west side.

An AR-10 brush gun in .325 WSM.........   hmmmmmm...........

Sure can, rumor has it there's a .375 version in the works :chuckle:. But what do I know. ;)

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #421 on: December 27, 2015, 05:31:56 PM »
Some should be appreciative there is no minimum IQ required to participate.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #422 on: December 27, 2015, 05:33:14 PM »
Guess I need to dig all those deer out of the freezer and put them back in the woods, because they shouldn't be dead.  I didn't get to use a AR, not legal here; too powerful.  I used a .50 muzzle loader with round ball that doesn't expand and only has 461 ft-lbs at the range they were shot, less than half what that 6.5 has.  :dunno:

1. Bullets don't always expand it they are going too fast.
2. Next years regs, no shots over 50 yards because 90% of hunters can't even get a clean kill at that distance.  2017: you will have to use a knife since real hunters should have the deer step on them before they stab it in self defense.
 :rolleyes:

I saw the original post and stayed out of it.  In my opinion, no where did bighammer say the novice could use that weapon to make that shot.  He simply said its a great round and that he had made kills with it at that distance.  Anyone who assumes because he did, they can or that he suggested that others should; shouldn't be hunting big gameshould just move on instead of starting a separate thread to bash him.
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #423 on: December 27, 2015, 05:36:06 PM »
Guess I need to dig all those deer out of the freezer and put them back in the woods, because they shouldn't be dead.  I didn't get to use a AR, not legal here; too powerful.  I used a .50 muzzle loader with round ball that doesn't expand and only has 461 ft-lbs at the range they were shot, less than half what that 6.5 has.  :dunno:

1. Bullets don't always expand it they are going too fast.
2. Next years regs, no shots over 50 yards because 90% of hunters can't even get a clean kill at that distance.  2017: you will have to use a knife since real hunters should have the deer step on them before they stab it in self defense.
 :rolleyes:

I saw the original post and stayed out of it.  In my opinion, no where did bighammer say the novice could use that weapon to make that shot.  He simply said its a great round and that he had made kills with it at that distance.  Anyone who assumes because he did, they can or that he suggested that others should; shouldn't be hunting big gameshould just move on instead of starting a separate thread to bash him.

And there's the facts from a third party, I have no association with. Straight up! The whole thread was a twist of the facts by the instigator.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #424 on: December 27, 2015, 05:45:00 PM »
can anyone answer my ? Can you chamber 7 wssm in an AR-15?

It can't be done on a AR15.

It can be done on a AR10. There ar AR10's chambered in .300 SAUM. The magazine is the issue. Complete custom mags.

I'm going to build a AR10 in .300 WSM shortly. I want the custom mags in hand before I commit.

Interesting.

I imagine if you could do a .300 WSM you could do a .325 WSM?

That would be a pretty wicked elk/bear platform for he west side.

An AR-10 brush gun in .325 WSM.........   hmmmmmm...........

Sure can, rumor has it there's a .375 version in the works :chuckle:. But what do I know. ;)

I'm at some point going to reconvene on that. But after reading this thread I don't think anyone would want a 375/458 SOCOM

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #425 on: December 27, 2015, 05:50:43 PM »
can anyone answer my ? Can you chamber 7 wssm in an AR-15?

It can't be done on a AR15.

It can be done on a AR10. There ar AR10's chambered in .300 SAUM. The magazine is the issue. Complete custom mags.

I'm going to build a AR10 in .300 WSM shortly. I want the custom mags in hand before I commit.

Interesting.

I imagine if you could do a .300 WSM you could do a .325 WSM?

That would be a pretty wicked elk/bear platform for he west side.

An AR-10 brush gun in .325 WSM.........   hmmmmmm...........

Sure can, rumor has it there's a .375 version in the works :chuckle:. But what do I know. ;)

I'm at some point going to reconvene on that. But after reading this thread I don't think anyone would want a 375/458 SOCOM


I WOULD! :tup: I would do some stuff that some would call seriously " Unethical " with it. :tup:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #426 on: December 27, 2015, 06:47:16 PM »
NEXT THREAD! "Ethical to shoot past 411 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle?  Yes/No"
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #427 on: December 27, 2015, 06:51:04 PM »
Yes but only with vlds  or larbs in less your pushing a ttsx  at 3000 fps ......lol

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #428 on: December 27, 2015, 07:05:30 PM »
Yes but only with vlds  or larbs in less your pushing a ttsx  at 3000 fps ......lol

Haha! Barnes aren't even a contender with their crap BC.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #429 on: December 27, 2015, 07:07:14 PM »
Yes but only with vlds  or larbs in less your pushing a ttsx  at 3000 fps ......lol

You must be shooting one of those inefficient barrel burning super magnums to get that kind of velocity! All I need is a bullet with a decent sectional density at about 2500 fps to cleanly take any animal on this continent. You guys and your super magnums trying to make up for being poor marksmen. Everybody knows that shot placement is all that matters...... :chuckle:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #430 on: December 27, 2015, 08:16:14 PM »
Damn super magnums! Their like putting a lift on your truck. Compensating for something. :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #431 on: December 28, 2015, 06:15:48 AM »
Well RTs truck is lifted ?

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #432 on: December 28, 2015, 07:17:37 AM »
Well RTs truck is lifted ?

So's mine, with a super magnum laying in the seat more often than not. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #433 on: December 28, 2015, 12:43:48 PM »
I'm gonna make a super ultra magnum, 300 ultra necked down to .204. Should be good for making noise at least
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #434 on: December 28, 2015, 01:21:09 PM »
I'm gonna make a super ultra magnum, 300 ultra necked down to .204. Should be good for making noise at least

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