594 and muzzleloader purchase

[Bob33]

Actually you can do a background check on a black powder gun.  The federal form 4473 only asks if it is a hand gun, a long gun, or other.

I believe his point is that according to Federal law, a black power gun is not considered a firearm.

https://www.atf.gov/file/61721/download
"Thus, a muzzle loading weapon that meets the definition of an “antique firearm” is not a firearm and may lawfully be received and possessed by a prohibited person under the GCA."

[cowboycraig]

What if it is THIS Muzzleloader?

[bobcat]

A scope and bipod doesn't change anything.

[luvmystang67]

What if it is THIS Muzzleloader?

yeah, that is an assault muzzy. You will need an AOW NFA stamp for that bad boy.  The forward vertical grip gives you a huge "SUPER SCARY" advantage over the deer and that tacti-cool scope mount ought to be illegal everywhere.  The bipod and front weapons light really enhance its assault-ability.  I like the way you've streamlined by removing the ramrod, but in this case, less is more as in "MORE ASSAULT" as you've streamlined the weapon.  Now that you've chosen to remove this primitive tool, that ramrod "LUG" up front should be removed to bring it IN LINE (pun) with assault muzzleloader regulations.

[Bob33]

What if it is THIS Muzzleloader?

If it meets the following definition, it is considered an “antique firearm” and is not subject to Gun Control Act requirements as far as the ATF is concerned:

“any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition. For purposes of this subparagraph, the term “antique firearm” shall not include any weapon which incorporates a firearm frame or receiver, any firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon, or any muzzle loading weapon which can be readily converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination thereof.”

[Jonathan_S]

I think Craig was just pulling everybody's leg with the "tactical muzzleloader" 

[cowboycraig]

I think Craig was just pulling everybody's leg with the "tactical muzzleloader" 

Ya pretty much.

[cbond3318]

That Assault Muzzy is scary. Although not practical in a Zombie Apocalypse......too heavy.

[JimmyHoffa]

The antis would probably try to ban speed loaders for that scary muzzleloader.

[usmc74]

I have a muzzleloader that has a bayonet mount...Shhhhhh

[lee]

Does a FFL transfer have to happen for the purchase of an inline muzzleloader now that 594 passed?

Technically, "yes" it does...... and "technically" this also applies to the transfer(sale) of concrete nail guns that use a 22rf blanks, also flare guns for your boat, also some fireworks...... based on how 594 so loosely defined a "firearm". Obviously though ... no... NICS are not being performed on these transfers.

Interestingly, one full year since 594 passed, not 1 person has been cited statewide....

Lee

[steeleywhopper]

I called a local place that does FFL transfers and he said that no transfer needed for muzzleloaders.

[bobcat]

I called a local place that does FFL transfers and he said that no transfer needed for muzzleloaders.

Yep. They will tell you that. Like I said before, the law is being ignored.

[Bob33]

I called a local place that does FFL transfers and he said that no transfer needed for muzzleloaders.

I wouldn't want to be the first one to have that tested in court.