Best AR going ?

[Biggerhammer]

might have a hard time swinging it out the window !

Dang coach. You see right through me! 
I did hear you need a brass catcher for that game also. Ar brass can and will crack the inside of a windshield! 



Nothing like the rear view mirror getting smoked by brass being launched from a HK91. Not to mention smoking hot brass dropping in the passengers lap. 













 

[coachcw]

Looks like my kiddo wa ts to do summer school to the tune e of about seven k . Might have to wait a bit . My brother has a thee ar one is a FN  308  he said I'm we'll come to walk a elk with it !    Or maybe I should just go shoot the cooper a bit .

[JDHasty]

It totally depends on what you are looking to do with it.  We have four and two of them are match rifles, one is a lightweight Remington R15 and the last one has an adjustable stock and that belongs to my kids and was put together out of the "Bag of Tricks," which is what I refer to my junk parts pile as. 

Three of those rifles (one is absolutely a carbine) will hold an inch at a hundred yards, with room to spare, and the forth might... but I have never bothered seeing if it could and that is with ammo that I just loaded up and did not go to any great lengths to match to the particular guns. 

The forth AR has a "M4" barrel that was defective and the gunsmith that gave it to me said the A-Frame is tilted over and I replaced it under warrantee, but if you are just going to put a gas block on it and a scope...   who cares anyway, it is just a gun for your kids.  IIRC, when I took that AR to the range it shot into an inch plus or minus at a hundred yards.   The kids have no problem breaking four inch balloons with it at two bucks and that is all I wanted it for anyway.

I would say that if you get an upper and lower from my hometown heroes, Aero Precision, and then watch their specials, that are emailed every day, you can build up EXACTLY what you want and stake the castle nut if'n you think that you will ever need to repel boarders with it and at the end of the day you could put together whatever your heart desires for south of a grand in the next six months. 

Putting together an AR that is exactly what your needs are is not rocket science any one who is not a booger eatin' moron can do it with a torque wrench and a few jigs like an action block and an AR tool.  For God's sake, when my daughter was four years old, she and I changed out the trigger in the Remington with a Guiseley SDE in five minutes. 

The most difficult part of the process is deciding what you want it to look like.  If you are capable of reading a cook book you are 100% able  to assemble the parts.  That is how I ended up with a lot of AR parts in our "bag of tricks."   It does not demand any special skill set to assemble and modify an AR, all it demands is being able to read and attention to detail. 


They are truly a platform that unless you are totally incompetent you, yourself, can assemble. 

The trigger is all important and I like the SDE.   There are others and if an AR has a good trigger it will shoot so long as your parts are good and that means a barrel that is properly machined.   

 

[Biggerhammer]

A quality barrel on a AR is everything, the rest is fluff. 

[shootem]

How about the trigger?

[JDHasty]

The only thing that matters is the barrel be top notch and the chamber be properly cut and that the barrel extension is 100% within spec.  If the upper and lower and bolt are from a reputable firm then it will shoot way below an inch at a hundred yards.

Every thing else is window dressing.  The trigger is what is all important to you, it is how you talk to your rifle, and never skimp on that.  I like the SDE from Guiseley, but there are others.

You can make it look any way you want and it is not expensive IF you make wise decisions and are not replacing parts you have already paid for.  Think about what you are looking to do with the rifle BEFORE spending money. 

If you get an upper and lower from Aero, they supply most of the top builders, and those parts will be within spec and with a little rubber device that sits behind the hinge pin, even if there is play don't get all wrapped up in that.  I think it is called an accu wedge.  You will be more than  fine if you can read a cook book.

Unlike other rifles the AR is all in the engineering that went into it.  It is "idiot proof." 

Just slow way down and make sure you understand the "cook book" instructions and with a good inch-pound torque wrench there is nothing that anyone can do to make an AR shoot that you are not capable of.  I guarandamntee it.  I have the trophies sitting at my mom's house to prove it.       

[Blacklab]

See how cool it is? I love showing it off. I get lots of 'Ooohs" and "aaaahs". I think the appreciation of others is half the fun. Shooting it doesn't suck, either.

Very nice!

A quality barrel on a AR is everything, the rest is fluff. 

 
Couldn't agree more 

Barrel
Trigger
Glass
In that order 
 
Here's my Grendel. Built myself.
18 inch 1-8 AA barrel
Timney 3lb trigger
Nikon 3x12x42
Nothing in the PNW I wouldn't hunt for with this rifle

[CAMPMEAT]

See how cool it is? I love showing it off. I get lots of 'Ooohs" and "aaaahs". I think the appreciation of others is half the fun. Shooting it doesn't suck, either.

Very nice!

A quality barrel on a AR is everything, the rest is fluff. 
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Couldn't agree more 

Barrel
Trigger
Glass
In that order 
 
Here's my Grendel. Built myself.
18 inch 1-8 AA barrel
Timney 3lb trigger
Nikon 3x12x42
Nothing in the PNW I wouldn't hunt for with this rifle

Did you shoot that deer with a tiny boolits over 400 yards with that fugly assault weapon ? I wanna know, I wanna know right now, c'mon, tell the non-believers, c'mon.....

[Blacklab]

Not even close to 400 yards. Maybe 10 or 15 yards  and he ran another 10 or 15  Maybe next time I'll stretch the legs a little further for fun 

[Biggerhammer]

Not even close to 400 yards. Maybe 10 or 15 yards  and he ran another 10 or 15  Maybe next time I'll stretch the legs a little further for fun 

What bullet did you use and how did it perform?  Always curious about bullet type and performance no matter the chambering.

[Blacklab]

Hand load 123 A-max top front shoulder destroyed it. Recovered on the other side weighed in @ 89 grs. It clipped a rib and lodged under the skin.

[JDHasty]

See how cool it is? I love showing it off. I get lots of 'Ooohs" and "aaaahs". I think the appreciation of others is half the fun. Shooting it doesn't suck, either.

Very nice!

A quality barrel on a AR is everything, the rest is fluff. 

 
Couldn't agree more 

Barrel
Trigger
Glass
In that order 
 
Here's my Grendel. Built myself.
18 inch 1-8 AA barrel
Timney 3lb trigger
Nikon 3x12x42
Nothing in the PNW I wouldn't hunt for with this rifle

I would put trigger ahead of barrel.  I can live with a bit less accuracy off a bench better than I can with a lousy trigger.  If I had money to change one component out on a middle of the road factory AR it would be the trigger.

[Biggerhammer]

I know when my triggers going to break. Being 6lbs or 8oz, makes no difference to me. I shoot them the same. I do prefer a good trigger but I'll give up nothing in the accuracy department barrel wise due to a trigger when assembling a AR. Then again I haven't shot a factory barrel AR in quite awhile.

[jay.sharkbait]

Barrel first. With twist being a major factor

Trigger and bolt next. I like the Rock River two stage and see no need for the other high end triggers. Bolts are very important(to me). They need to be square and made of the proper material.

Rest is fluff

[Special T]

I would say have one built... if you MUST have one off the shelf there are some people that are happy with the Olympic arms They make a 6.5 grendel and i also belive a 30 ossm