Adequate for elk? Beginner

[JJB11B]

I am glad I read this thread, I have been eyeing a 716 for a while...Might just pass on it....

I'll sell you one!

For cheaper than I can get into a 6.5 Grendel?

[Stein]

It's all personal preference on bullet weight. Anything from 150 to 180 will work fine on elk from a 308.

With the 100% copper bullets such as the Barnes, the more velocity the better. It ensures the bullet will expand properly. So with copper bullets I'd definitely go with the 150.

Ditto, with Barnes you need 1500 fps at Impact to open reliably.  In a 308, I would guess 350 yards at least for 168s. 


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[Biggerhammer]

A 150gr Accubond will cover everything quite well for what the .308 Win is worth.

[JJB11B]

I shot a deer in the head with a 168 Gr Sierra Match King.....Worked like a champ 100 yards +/- a few

[Biggerhammer]

I shot a deer in the head with a 168 Gr Sierra Match King.....Worked like a champ 100 yards +/- a few

Hahaha! Reminds me of a time I was standing with a friend on a big rock slide in Eastern WA. There was on clump of sage in the middle of the slide near us ( 20 yards ). This small two point Muile stands up out of his bed in the clump. My buddy promptly pops him in the head with his HK91 and a black hills factory 168gr Sierra MK. We looked through the rock for the better part of a hour and couldn't Find the off side antler.

So he made a wood plague , mounted the single two point antler and used it as a hat rack. That was 25 years ago, I still smile ever time I see it.

[Bob33]

I killed quite a few deer and a couple elk in my younger days with Sierra Pro Hunter bullets before I learned they couldn't.

[JJB11B]

I shot a deer in the head with a 168 Gr Sierra Match King.....Worked like a champ 100 yards +/- a few

Hahaha! Reminds me of a time I was standing with a friend on a big rock slide in Eastern WA. There was on clump of sage in the middle of the slide near us ( 20 yards ). This small two point Muile stands up out of his bed in the clump. My buddy promptly pops him in the head with his HK91 and a black hills factory 168gr Sierra MK. We looked through the rock for the better part of a hour and couldn't Find the off side antler.

So he made a wood plague , mounted the single two point antler and used it as a hat rack. That was 25 years ago, I still smile ever time I see it.

Those are the best kind of things in life. 25 years later just looking puts the smile right back on your face

[Biggerhammer]

I shot a deer in the head with a 168 Gr Sierra Match King.....Worked like a champ 100 yards +/- a few

Hahaha! Reminds me of a time I was standing with a friend on a big rock slide in Eastern WA. There was on clump of sage in the middle of the slide near us ( 20 yards ). This small two point Muile stands up out of his bed in the clump. My buddy promptly pops him in the head with his HK91 and a black hills factory 168gr Sierra MK. We looked through the rock for the better part of a hour and couldn't Find the off side antler.

So he made a wood plague , mounted the single two point antler and used it as a hat rack. That was 25 years ago, I still smile ever time I see it.

Those are the best kind of things in life. 25 years later just looking puts the smile right back on your face

Haha! That little guy was still stubbling around half asleep when his ticket got punched.


My friend looked at me with a smirk and said "Match Kings can't kill chit". They were talking trash about the MK's back then.

[JJB11B]

I shot a deer in the head with a 168 Gr Sierra Match King.....Worked like a champ 100 yards +/- a few

Hahaha! Reminds me of a time I was standing with a friend on a big rock slide in Eastern WA. There was on clump of sage in the middle of the slide near us ( 20 yards ). This small two point Muile stands up out of his bed in the clump. My buddy promptly pops him in the head with his HK91 and a black hills factory 168gr Sierra MK. We looked through the rock for the better part of a hour and couldn't Find the off side antler.

So he made a wood plague , mounted the single two point antler and used it as a hat rack. That was 25 years ago, I still smile ever time I see it.

Those are the best kind of things in life. 25 years later just looking puts the smile right back on your face

Haha! That little guy was still stubbling around half asleep when his ticket got punched.


My friend looked at me with a smirk and said "Match Kings can't kill chit". They were talking trash about the MK's back then.

I shot this doe in her bed, had to roll over once to my left then aim just right of center to ensure the bullet exiting wouldn't smash her hind quarters, you should have heard CoryTDF when I pulled the trigger ! it was an unsightly seen...Quintin Taratino status....

[EmeraldBullet]

The Hornady Superformance 165's shot the best through mine but open the gas system up because on the standard setting it flat rocked the bolt carrier group and increased recoil was very noticeable. I've shot everything under the sun I could find factory wise through my 716 and mines about a 1 1/2 MOA carbine. Which doesn't impress me much. Haven't taken the time to handload for it due to the fact I'm not big on the .308 and just need it to shoot MOA of idiot if need be with ball ammo.

I have shot 30-40 Rockchucks with it.

Thanks for the suggestions. Have to ask, what didn't you like about the 716? Seems very reliable for me so far and it spits out any .308 or 7.62 ammo which can be nice on the budget.

[EmeraldBullet]

What would happen if I targeted a turkey with this rifle? Would that be fine or just make a mess? Thanks again for the help.

[JimmyHoffa]

What would happen if I targeted a turkey with this rifle? Would that be fine or just make a mess? Thanks again for the help.

makes a big mess if you hit it in the wrong spot, lose a bunch of meat.  Some states it's legal to take turkey with a rifle.

[bobcat]

Only shotguns are legal for turkey in Washington.

[EmeraldBullet]

Only shotguns are legal for turkey in Washington.

Thank you for letting me know this. I have a shotgun from my grandpa his father gave him, only been fired twice. I just have to cross the pass to pick it up. Not a big deal, just glad I didn't try it with my sig, trying to keep things legal.

[EmeraldBullet]

Only shotguns are legal for turkey in Washington.

Can you shoot a Turkey on the reservation with a sig?