Purpose of true spike units?

[PlateauNDN]

Tag system period.if the yaks got  one tag  that was open year round I'd be OK with it . Take the one you want and be done . No reason a deer and elk per adult wouldn't be enough for a familly. Heck throw a wild horse in too.

Blasphemy! My 2 baby girls eat thru an elk themselves. I fight them for seconds. I would honestly support 2 male per species sept 1 thru dec 31. and females no limit same time period. Ceremonial hunts limited to females species.

[coachcw]

Tag system period.if the yaks got  one tag  that was open year round I'd be OK with it . Take the one you want and be done . No reason a deer and elk per adult wouldn't be enough for a familly. Heck throw a wild horse in too.

Blasphemy! My 2 baby girls eat thru an elk themselves. I fight them for seconds. I would honestly support 2 male per species sept 1 thru dec 31. and females no limit same time period. Ceremonial hunts limited to females species.

I bet you would      ....... I can't say I'd be any different  in giving in on any rights I had ..... the difference is some Indians  pull the trigger plat .... gotta be a happy spot between one and twenty seven bulls.

[PlateauNDN]

Tag system period.if the yaks got  one tag  that was open year round I'd be OK with it . Take the one you want and be done . No reason a deer and elk per adult wouldn't be enough for a familly. Heck throw a wild horse in too.

Blasphemy! My 2 baby girls eat thru an elk themselves. I fight them for seconds. I would honestly support 2 male per species sept 1 thru dec 31. and females no limit same time period. Ceremonial hunts limited to females species.

I bet you would      ....... I can't say I'd be any different  in giving in on any rights I had ..... the difference is some Indians  pull the trigger plat .... gotta be a happy spot between one and twenty seven bulls.

I know Coach, it's not a question of giving up rights but regulating them. My argument to our officials has been that if there's seasons and regulations for salmon and other anadronomous fish the why not big game as well.

There's less big game numbers then fish but yet we allow the unregulated harvesting of them? We regulate moose, big horn sheep and mountain goats but not deer or elk?

Again, I'm not saying give up rights but regulate the harvest numbers to allow sustainability of the herds.

Self-control isn't difficult.

[danderson]

  The reason for the true spike rule has been discussed in prior threads, well documented and debated with lots of good points from all sides, not sure if sound game management can influence the bull to cow ratio when out side influences effect there goals, I know for a fact that more deer and elk get killed on the roads between Easton and Ellensburg annually than get harvested legally by hunting, throw in tribal harvest, poaching, miss-identification, depredation from predators, Bigfoot, aliens-its a very complicated issue
 

[bobcat]

It should be an any bull season with a limit on the number harvested either by limited permits or a quota. But yes, in addition to that there needs to also be a limit to how many the tribal hunters can take.

Plat said a limit of two Bulls would be good, and I'd be fine with that. But I definitely don't agree with no limit on cows.

I couldn't disagree more with the spike only rule. Dumbest thing ever. If it's such a good management strategy then let's go to spike only for mule deer.

[coachcw]

Some times  it's too simple to accomplish. As far as I know  the  Yakima tribe get fifty percent of the harvest in there ceded lands . Now the problem with this is there is no limit on spikes or three point bucks therfore no way of knowing what fifty percent may be. Simple  use harvest data to allocate a real number to go by ..... say 200 elk get killed the next season allow 200 triple harvests.  Let the Yakima allocate a number of those tags to other tribes in a manner they see fit . Every elk and deer gets tagged . I feel this number would be reasonable and the department  of game could set seasons and limits with real data and a partnership with the tribe. The tribe could had out the tags as needed and my bet is one member wouldn't shoot 27 bulls in a season .

[boneaddict]

Definitely getting closer coach.   I believe the colvilles are one elk per member per year.  That's perfect.  I also like their season close dates.   I don't think animals should be hunted after December 31st.   Give em a break.  Its kind of hard to manange any wildlife if you don't have any data.  Coach has some good ideas.   Get a tag and turn it in.  Not sure why its so far fetched for the Yaks to self regulate and participate in sound management.   The colvilles are set up very similar and have a great game management program.  Sometimes I think they overharvest a bit,  but they flex or at least make an attempt to.

[matt509]

The tribal hunters should be allowed to do whatever they want whenever they want on reservation land.  If they intend to harvest off the reservation, they should be required to do so in a more primitive manner, similar to the way their elders did.  It should be limited to archery.  The ancestors never had rifles/optics combinations that were capable of long range shots.

[DOUBLELUNG]

Excellent point Bone and thanks for shedding some light on this for me DOUBLELUNG. During the big game meetings does this issue ever get brought up that we are essentially creating extra opportunities for our co-managers??

Oh yes, and sometimes rather heatedly.  I think any restrictions on tribal harvest other than as imposed by the tribal councils is a non-starter, just my opinion.  The only real, actionable option is less motorized access on public lands.

[HUNTaHOLIC5]

The tribal hunters should be allowed to do whatever they want whenever they want on reservation land.  If they intend to harvest off the reservation, they should be required to do so in a more primitive manner, similar to the way their elders did.  It should be limited to archery.  The ancestors never had rifles/optics combinations that were capable of long range shots.

So you would agree with anti gunners that the second amendment doesn't apply to modern weapons amd it only protects weapons in that era? I'm sure you don't but it's the same thing.

[Fl0und3rz]

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[steeleywhopper]

True Spike was put into effect to make me switch to West Side Archery. I am officially converting to West Side elk hunting as of 2016.