Black Panthers Armed Patrols in TX - Is it a problem?

[JJB11B]

I don't see the problem here. If they break the law, they'll go to jail. If they don't, they're exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. I think the Conservative Tribune has completely missed the mark with this article. What do you think?
http://conservativetribune.com/armed-gangs-black-panthers-2/

Agreed, the left considers the militia in Oregon in the same light as many of us see the Black Panthers. just my take, as long as no laws are being broke, they  are exercising their rights as Americans.

[DOUBLELUNG]

Agreed, the left considers the militia in Oregon in the same light as many of us see the Black Panthers. just my take, as long as no laws are being broke, they  are exercising their rights as Americans.

Perfectly stated

[Fl0und3rz]

Two differences of note with the OR situation.  OR adversary is the government, and they are breaking the law, I am supposing.  TX adversaries are everyday citizens that happen upon this group on a public thoroughfare, by all appearances, and as noted, it is unclear whether they are breaking the law.

It appears they have gone beyond the 2A in OR, and may have in TX.

This is said in full understanding that armed resistance to tyranny is the raison d'être of the 2A. Neither OR or TX fits that justification for armed resistance.

[csaaphill]

Shrug I don't' care about black people open carrying it our right or should be.

[Oh Mah]

Two differences of note with the OR situation.  OR adversary is the government, and they are breaking the law, I am supposing.  TX adversaries are everyday citizens that happen upon this group on a public thoroughfare, by all appearances, and as noted, it is unclear whether they are breaking the law.

It appears they have gone beyond the 2A in OR, and may have in TX.

This is said in full understanding that armed resistance to tyranny is the raison d'être of the 2A. Neither OR or TX fits that justification for armed resistance.

could you list the laws that are being broken in Oregon so that we can better understand your argument?

[Fl0und3rz]

Two differences of note with the OR situation.  OR adversary is the government, and they are breaking the law, I am supposing.  TX adversaries are everyday citizens that happen upon this group on a public thoroughfare, by all appearances, and as noted, it is unclear whether they are breaking the law.

It appears they have gone beyond the 2A in OR, and may have in TX.

This is said in full understanding that armed resistance to tyranny is the raison d'être of the 2A. Neither OR or TX fits that justification for armed resistance.

could you list the laws that are being broken in Oregon so that we can better understand your argument?

I take it for granted that unlicensed armed entry and occupation of a federal facility is unlawful, as is refusing lawful commands to cease said occupation.  Don't you?  I am sure congress made some laws.

I should ask you to prove the converse so we can understand your reluctance to accept that as reality.

[WAcoyotehunter]

I don't see the problem here. If they break the law, they'll go to jail. If they don't, they're exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. I think the Conservative Tribune has completely missed the mark with this article. What do you think?
http://conservativetribune.com/armed-gangs-black-panthers-2/

Agreed, the left considers the militia in Oregon in the same light as many of us see the Black Panthers. just my take, as long as no laws are being broke, they  are exercising their rights as Americans.

The difference is that the red necks in Oregon are breaking laws, clearly. 

If the black panthers took over a federal building I think we would see a much more aggressive response. 

[Oh Mah]

Two differences of note with the OR situation.  OR adversary is the government, and they are breaking the law, I am supposing.  TX adversaries are everyday citizens that happen upon this group on a public thoroughfare, by all appearances, and as noted, it is unclear whether they are breaking the law.

It appears they have gone beyond the 2A in OR, and may have in TX.

This is said in full understanding that armed resistance to tyranny is the raison d'être of the 2A. Neither OR or TX fits that justification for armed resistance.

could you list the laws that are being broken in Oregon so that we can better understand your argument?

I take it for granted that unlicensed armed entry and occupation of a federal facility is unlawful, as is refusing lawful commands to cease said occupation.  Don't you?  I am sure congress made some laws.

I should ask you to prove the converse so we can understand your reluctance to accept that as reality.

I do not have any thing to converse for or against the laws broken,just have not been able to see any list of the laws broken yet.How much damage was done to the facility etc.What would you consider a peaceful protest on public land?Are you supposed to just stop when told to do so in your opinion?

[Fl0und3rz]

I have not seen a list either.  But it is a reasonable assumption, IMO, that there exists laws against unlicensed, armed occupation of a federal facility and/or premises and refusal to comply with lawful orders to vacate.  Is this an unreasonable assumption?

What would you consider a peaceful protest on public land?

A peaceful protest would be one that was permitted (permit obtained), if applicable, that adhered to the terms of the permit, and that ended according to the terms of the permit with full vacating of the premises and accounting for any damages, if necessary, while adhering to all other laws, whether they pertained to the protest, or otherwise.

Do you consider a militia group's armed occupation of a federal facility a peaceful protest?

[magnanimous_j]

It's a test. The anti's are waiting with baited breath to see the white, conservative reaction. They would like nothing more than for white conservatives to freak the hell out. This would prove to them (and a lot of other Americans) that open carry and 2a issues are just white privilege, adding a racial angle to the gun debate that would be a HUGELY effective for the anti's.

A calm, dispassionate response is the only solution. The Black Panthers are just agitators, they aren't going to actually do anything.

[Fl0und3rz]

A calm, dispassionate response is the only solution. The Black Panthers are just agitators, they aren't going to actually do anything.

I actually agree.  What have you done with mag_j?

It's a test. The anti's are waiting with baited breath to see the white, conservative reaction. They would like nothing more than for white conservatives to freak the hell out. This would prove to them (and a lot of other Americans) that open carry and 2a issues are just white privilege, adding a racial angle to the gun debate that would be a HUGELY effective for the anti's.

And it would a useful tool to keep the minority voters on the democratic plantation. 

[pianoman9701]

  I agree with the lib on this one.

[ctwiggs1]

My biggest concern is their crappy berets.  Come on guys, form those things!  What are you, french pastry bakers?

So some people are carrying guns around, who cares?

[Oh Mah]

I have not seen a list either.  But it is a reasonable assumption, IMO, that there exists laws against unlicensed, armed occupation of a federal facility and/or premises and refusal to comply with lawful orders to vacate.  Is this an unreasonable assumption?

What would you consider a peaceful protest on public land?

A peaceful protest would be one that was permitted (permit obtained), if applicable, that adhered to the terms of the permit, and that ended according to the terms of the permit with full vacating of the premises and accounting for any damages, if necessary, while adhering to all other laws, whether they pertained to the protest, or otherwise.

Do you consider a militia group's armed occupation of a federal facility a peaceful protest?

A PERMIT TO PROTEST ARE YOU KIDDING ME?UNLICENSED YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING.

[Fl0und3rz]

I am going to come conduct a "peaceful" armed protest in your house.  How quickly will you be calling the police to have me removed for trespassing?  Carry on in your alternate reality.