White Pass outfitters

[theleo]

What a lot of you DIY dont realize I cant control the illegal outfitters in the area. I know of 4 working the area now and they dont play by the rules because the FS does nothing about it. The guide lines I have to follow are a lot stricter than the rules for a DIY HUNTER. I'M watched all the time and my camps are checked on more than anyone's.
As an outfitter I cant over camp an area, if my clients aren't getting game or seeing game then my business would go under. And I sure would like to know wear your hunting in the st of wa and not use to seeing a soul. I've   hunted,guided and outfitted in the goat rocks and William o Douglas for yrs. And unless youve got horses and mules you should not be hunting wear my camps are because your meat will spoil before you can get it out.
Thanks again for the positive feed back from most of you.
I will be at the Yakima sportsmens show and would really like to meet some of you guys.  Good luck this year; Fair Chase Wilderness Hunts Only For The Real Hunter 
 

Most don't even know there's a difference between hunter hours and outfitter hours.
There's lots of people out there that don't play by rules. Most hunters have not a clue what it takes to run an outfitting buidness with mules snd horses. You guys have to spend a ton of money to do it all above board. Those that say outfitters over crowd areas, you need to realize if they do that their customers are even more upset about it than you are and it damages their business in a big way. Illegal outfitters will put people anywhere they can fit a tent and call it good. They don't have near the out if pocket expenses legal, licensed, and permitted outfitters do.

The best way to have a little money in the outfitting business is to start out with a lot, by the time the expenses are all dealt with it will be little enough.

[ctwiggs1]

I seriously doubt that the majority of the people who hire an outfitter are going to have the equipment or physical capability to go back to that area the next year on their own. 

[257 Wby Mag]

What a lot of you DIY dont realize I cant control the illegal outfitters in the area. I know of 4 working the area now and they dont play by the rules because the FS does nothing about it. The guide lines I have to follow are a lot stricter than the rules for a DIY HUNTER. I'M watched all the time and my camps are checked on more than anyone's.
As an outfitter I cant over camp an area, if my clients aren't getting game or seeing game then my business would go under. And I sure would like to know wear your hunting in the st of wa and not use to seeing a soul. I've   hunted,guided and outfitted in the goat rocks and William o Douglas for yrs. And unless youve got horses and mules you should not be hunting wear my camps are because your meat will spoil before you can get it out.
Thanks again for the positive feed back from most of you.
I will be at the Yakima sportsmens show and would really like to meet some of you guys.  Good luck this year; Fair Chase Wilderness Hunts Only For The Real Hunter 
 

Never met you, dont know who you are, but it sound s like you are providing a great service to folks. Thank you

If I ever draw a bull tag, you'll be the one. Later.

[2MANY]

I haven't seen the mystical forest service employee lifting a hand to clear a trail in years.
PERIOD.

Back in the day they had a ton of stock at Randle and actually did something.

Those days are over because they have no money now. LOL

On a side note.
The same fern feelers who take exception to the horses and mules on the trail should bow down when they pass. If it weren't for the horse people the trails wouldn't have been built in the first place.
If it weren't for groups like the back country horseman, hunters, and guides the trails would be impassable today.
Probably would make for some really good hunting.

[2MANY]

It should be noted that in all my wilderness experience I have only had trouble with an outfitter once.
That was in the Selway and because we were over the heartbeat rule.
He turned us into the FS who then rode in 25 miles with some collage chick and gave us a lecture.

Good times and no crowds there.

[HighCountryHunter88]

What a lot of you DIY dont realize I cant control the illegal outfitters in the area. I know of 4 working the area now and they dont play by the rules because the FS does nothing about it. The guide lines I have to follow are a lot stricter than the rules for a DIY HUNTER. I'M watched all the time and my camps are checked on more than anyone's.
As an outfitter I cant over camp an area, if my clients aren't getting game or seeing game then my business would go under. And I sure would like to know wear your hunting in the st of wa and not use to seeing a soul. I've   hunted,guided and outfitted in the goat rocks and William o Douglas for yrs. And unless youve got horses and mules you should not be hunting wear my camps are because your meat will spoil before you can get it out.
Thanks again for the positive feed back from most of you.
I will be at the Yakima sportsmens show and would really like to meet some of you guys.  Good luck this year; Fair Chase Wilderness Hunts Only For The Real Hunter 
 

the part about how i should not be hunting with out horse and mules "where your camps are" is laughable. we have pulled plenty of bulls out on our backs from those areas without issue. These areas arnt really all that huge in the grand scheme of things.. this year i too had my first "outfitter experience" in a place we have hunted 20 plus yrs..

[bobcat]

You don't want to use an outfitter- then don't. But the people who pay for an outfitter's services have just as much right to be there as you do.

[HntnFsh]

Careful Bob, you'll raise the ire of the all roads should be gated people too! After all. It is all about them. Heck with the people that aren't able to hunt the way they do.

I hope to someday be able to use the services of White Pass outfitters. They seem like a class act!

[White Pass Outfitters]

And I agree with you high hunter our areas are not that big, but when its 70+ degrees
during archery season, most, not all hunters cant make  a double trip before your meat is starting to spoil. Even if your only 7 miles in. I can and have done it on my back.Just got smarter.Again thanks for all the positive response.
White Pass Outfitters

[Moose Master]

I started this tread with a simple request of info from which I got some good feedback and some that seemed to personalized the request.  I meet with the outfitter along with one of my adult sons at the Puyallup Sportsman's Show and after several visit and discussion's we needed to make a decision.  One of the comments from my son was that the outfitter cares about what he does and gave a answer to every one of our questions without hesitation.  We book a muzzy pack in trip and I will post our experience after the trip is completed.  When all is said and done it's all about being in the bush and sharing time with Mother Nature and my sons and friends.  Meat hanging is the pursuit, getting it done is a job.  Good Luck To All In The 2016 Hunting Season.

[kirkl]

   Threads like this always bring out the cry babies (almost every thread now adays). Hope you have a great hunt.

[MtnMuley]

  Threads like this always bring out the cry babies (almost every thread now adays). Hope you have a great hunt.

No kidding.  I am also debating on this year or next year with White Pass Outfitters.   He will gladly get my business.

[kirkl]

Ill go BS with him next weekend at our show. Come on down, ill buy ya a beer or 18 lol.

[coachcw]

congrats on living the dream !

[bullcanyon]

Lol.. blaming an outfitter for the increase in back country hunters.. Must not watch the outdoor channel or read Eastman's journal or any other similar publication. Since Cam's book come out there's been a steady increase in hunters venturing deeper and deeper. Most guys that will pay to go on a hunt aren't the same that are diy hunting.