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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2016, 09:07:38 PM »
What app are you using


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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2016, 09:18:39 PM »
What app are you using
Mine is "shooter"

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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2016, 09:32:40 PM »
I range my gun here at pretty much sea level and hunt at about 4,500.  I split the difference and printed a dial for about 2,500' that I use everywhere.  As others noted, you are talking about an inch or two max.

Why not just order your CDS for 2500 or 3000 knowing it's going to be +1or2 to - 1or2 depending on where you are at?  :dunno:
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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2016, 09:39:54 PM »
3 inches of error doesn't seem like much but for me it's too much

This will be different for every person but look at it this way....I've watched my heart racing bounce cross hairs up to 6 inches before on animals...add that error to the 3 inch elevation error and now we're at 9 inches of error...now that could work in your favor to give you an end result of only 3 inches of error...now that's just one way vertical..with only an elevation & hold error...add the other factors such as the wind or how accurate your rifle is and it's a missed animal or worse a wounded one

Long winded but my point is that in a miss all the error adds up one factor at a time

If you are worried about 3 inch variation getting added to 6 inches of bouncing from your heart racing...you are worried about the wrong variable!


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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2016, 09:45:06 PM »
Going by the data that Jackelope posted, at 500 yards there's only 2 inches difference in drop between the 500 feet in elevation versus the 5,000 feet. At 600 yards only 3 1/2 inches. Since you're elk hunting, a couple inches isn't that significant. You might be just fine with the dial you already have.

3 inches of error doesn't seem like much but for me it's too much

This will be different for every person but look at it this way....I've watched my heart racing bounce cross hairs up to 6 inches before on animals...add that error to the 3 inch elevation error and now we're at 9 inches of error...now that could work in your favor to give you an end result of only 3 inches of error...now that's just one way vertical..with only an elevation & hold error...add the other factors such as the wind or how accurate your rifle is and it's a missed animal or worse a wounded one

Long winded but my point is that in a miss all the error adds up one factor at a time

Unless you are trying to put it's eye out  ... an Elk that has 28" from the top of it's back to it's belly 2-3" isnt a big deal ...  :dunno:
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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2016, 09:53:12 PM »
If you're worried about 3" at 600 yards, just aim 3" lower. ;)

The elk won't know the difference.
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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2016, 09:57:21 PM »
Haha you guys can do it how ever you want, I'm going to eliminate as many errors as possible and keep using the correct dope...if ya wana add a couple more inches to your group size, be my guest  :tup:

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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2016, 02:11:00 AM »
You won't get any ribbons or medals for your group size on an Elk! Dead is dead 3" either way!  ;)
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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2016, 07:22:56 AM »
I'm with kentec on this one. 3" is a big deal to me. Tho like bullblaster I use moa and a kestrel   I've never like those cds dials or bdc.
Shot placement is everything and I'd like it to hit right where I want it not about where I want it. Just how I do it.  With the kestrel and moa dial I'm good where ever I wanna hunt, any elevation or temp range. I figure wind is the worst enemy anyway in long distance shooting so I like having the kestrel to help eliminate as many variables as possible.
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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2016, 07:30:59 AM »
Just get closer.

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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2016, 08:13:39 AM »
Just get closer.

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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2016, 08:16:04 AM »
Does your range finder already compensate? Ie leica 1600?

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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2016, 08:48:17 AM »
Does your range finder already compensate? Ie leica 1600?
The Leica doesn't compensate anything. It gives range and atmospheric conditions.
It can give a correction (out to 500 yards) if you choose from one of the 12 curves that are programmed into the unit.

It will give the relevant info; range, angle, pressure, and temp that you can input into your calculator to generate a solution.

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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2016, 09:20:23 AM »
The 1600b calculates a "true ballastic range" to 880 yards adjusted for baro, temp and angle for one of the trajectory curves you select.

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Re: CDS dial vs. other dial?
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2016, 09:31:44 AM »
The 1600b calculates a "true ballastic range" to 880 yards adjusted for baro, temp and angle for one of the trajectory curves you select.
I was thinking it limited the solutions for the preloaded curves to 500. My mistake. That is a good tool if one of the curves fits your actual trajectory.
I still prefer to use my calculator. Especially outside 500 yards.

 


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