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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2016, 08:10:42 PM »
For all you rocket scientist and Google freaks out there. Take a Ruger SP101 .357 loaded with Corbon's jam it in your ribs and pull the trigger. Then give me a call and ask me if it works for a carry handgun in the woods.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2016, 08:11:41 PM »
For all you rocket scientist and Google freaks out there. Take a Ruger SP101 .357 loaded with Corbon's jam it in your ribs and pull the trigger. Then give me a call and ask me if it works for a carry handgun in the woods.

I'm glad the majority here aren't on my left or right!

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2016, 08:14:10 PM »
For all you rocket scientist and Google freaks out there. Take a Ruger SP101 .357 loaded with Corbon's jam it in your ribs and pull the trigger. Then give me a call and ask me if it works for a carry handgun in the woods.

I'm glad the majority here aren't on my left or right!

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2016, 09:26:51 PM »
For all you rocket scientist and Google freaks out there. Take a Ruger SP101 .357 loaded with Corbon's jam it in your ribs and pull the trigger. Then give me a call and ask me if it works for a carry handgun in the woods.

I'm glad the majority here aren't on my left or right!
I guess I don't see your point. By the same logic a 32 magnum is good if you're worried about dealing with black bears.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2016, 09:46:06 PM »
For all you rocket scientist and Google freaks out there. Take a Ruger SP101 .357 loaded with Corbon's jam it in your ribs and pull the trigger. Then give me a call and ask me if it works for a carry handgun in the woods.

I'm glad the majority here aren't on my left or right!
I guess I don't see your point. By the same logic a 32 magnum is good if you're worried about dealing with black bears.

Washington State black bears are wusses and two legged varmints are even softer.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2016, 09:48:26 PM »
Yawn..
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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2016, 09:50:35 PM »
For all you rocket scientist and Google freaks out there. Take a Ruger SP101 .357 loaded with Corbon's jam it in your ribs and pull the trigger. Then give me a call and ask me if it works for a carry handgun in the woods.

I'm glad the majority here aren't on my left or right!
I guess I don't see your point. By the same logic a 32 magnum is good if you're worried about dealing with black bears.

Washington State black bears are wusses and two legged varmints are even softer.
Black bears a wusses until you have a black fuzz ball shooting up a tree out of the brush a few yards from you. Mama bear won't be far away and will be more than happy to rearrange your blood vessels.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2016, 10:07:25 PM »
6 of one and half dozen of another...  A 2.5" barrel has less velocity and resultant energy but it is a pretty moot point. If you really need it then the belly gun will suit you better because the animal will likely be on you.  If you have the time to admire the longer sight radius and higher energy of the longer barrel then you really don't need it because it is likely less than 1:1,000,000 that it is actually a life threatening situation.

Out of curiosity, has anyone on here ever actually had to defend themselves from an imminent or actual attack?  I've known a lot of people to get pretty worked up because there is bear sign in an area but I have never really worried about it, I almost always go armed but am more worried about scumbags than bears or other wild animals.

Teacherman - maybe things have changed but my experience with Buffalo Bore has been the worst of any ammunition I have ever experienced. I have personally handled three firearms their ammo has destroyed and helped drive out two slugged barrels from their ammo. I know they have some blistering velocity and good bullet choice but I would personally never use it again.

I had the short barreled 500 S&W for a number of years and it was quite the handful. I learned quickly that when shooting full horsepower loads that if I wanted to save the skin on the web of my palm I should put a little oil on the backstrap so it didn't peel it off. Great gun though, I liked mine a lot but it was just too much overkill.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2016, 10:12:08 PM »
For all you rocket scientist and Google freaks out there. Take a Ruger SP101 .357 loaded with Corbon's jam it in your ribs and pull the trigger. Then give me a call and ask me if it works for a carry handgun in the woods.

I'm glad the majority here aren't on my left or right!
I guess I don't see your point. By the same logic a 32 magnum is good if you're worried about dealing with black bears.

Washington State black bears are wusses and two legged varmints are even softer.
Black bears a wusses until you have a black fuzz ball shooting up a tree out of the brush a few yards from you. Mama bear won't be far away and will be more than happy to rearrange your blood vessels.

Brown bear, likely yes.  But in my experience blackies are much less maternal. While hunting and guiding in the fall in SE Alaska I have been around numerous mama black bears and they usually climb the tree with their cubs or head out to come back later.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2016, 10:44:40 PM »
😊
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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2016, 11:07:22 PM »
I had the short barreled 500 S&W for a number of years and it was quite the handful. I learned quickly that when shooting full horsepower loads that if I wanted to save the skin on the web of my palm I should put a little oil on the backstrap so it didn't peel it off. Great gun though, I liked mine a lot but it was just too much overkill.

Did you have the 2 1/2 500?  I've got the 4in. 500 and it's a handful, I could only imagine what the snubby version would be like.  One thing about it, if you can't get it done with your five shots you can always club them to death with it because these things are pretty heavy.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2016, 11:14:26 PM »
It was the 2.5" Alaska Survival model. Quite a handful is right, when that cylinder spun an locked up in single action it always felt like the gun torqued half over before I got it under control again. I think it weighed ~52oz. And would have made quite a bludgeon if the 1/3 pound of lead didn't do the trick first.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2016, 07:37:01 AM »
One of several finished off with a 3" Lew Horton M29. Short barrel is sure convenient up close and to pack. 44mag might be overkill for "WUSSY" black bear according to some, alledgedly..😊
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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2016, 08:42:40 AM »
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Out of curiosity, has anyone on here ever actually had to defend themselves from an imminent or actual attack?  I've known a lot of people to get pretty worked up because there is bear sign in an area but I have never really worried about it, I almost always go armed but am more worried about scumbags than bears or other wild animals.


Yes, I got attacked once.  A big boar.  Charged, stuck a round in his chest at about 10 feet and closing faster than you can ever imagine.   30-30 round single through a contender.  Bear had enough velocity after the shotto hit me and knock me down.  When he hit me, I went rolling down a steep bank, my hat came off my head.  He pounced on it. When I stopped rolling, I hat another round chambered,  I came up and hit him in the shoulders.  That put him down.  He had been fighting with another boar.

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Re: ? for you ballistic gurus
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2016, 08:47:46 AM »
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Out of curiosity, has anyone on here ever actually had to defend themselves from an imminent or actual attack?  I've known a lot of people to get pretty worked up because there is bear sign in an area but I have never really worried about it, I almost always go armed but am more worried about scumbags than bears or other wild animals.


Yes, I got attacked once.  A big boar.  Charged, stuck a round in his chest at about 10 feet and closing faster than you can ever imagine.   30-30 round single through a contender.  Bear had enough velocity after the shotto hit me and knock me down.  When he hit me, I went rolling down a steep bank, my hat came off my head.  He pounced on it. When I stopped rolling, I hat another round chambered,  I came up and hit him in the shoulders.  That put him down.  He had been fighting with another boar.

This was the first thing I thought of when I read the OP, your story gives me pucker 10/10.  I'd be curious how many people on here have actually been attacked?  Probably dozens maybe hundreds have been bluff charged (I have) but to be actually attacked?

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