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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2016, 11:03:33 AM »
You are right bigtex!


But, my problem is that I'm more fond of the enforcement side than I am the admin/biologist side!
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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2016, 11:14:46 AM »
That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves.  :tup:

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before  :bash:

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2016, 11:16:32 AM »

That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves.  :tup:

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before  :bash:

Well, you can't disagree with everything in this world just because of something wrong that MIGHT happen.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2016, 11:17:38 AM »

That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves.  :tup:

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before  :bash:

Well, you can't disagree with everything in this world just because of something wrong that MIGHT happen.

HAS Happened!!

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2016, 11:22:03 AM »


That sounds good- so they can't spend the migratory bird money on wolves.  :tup:

Right because funds have never been misappropriated for wolves before  :bash:

Well, you can't disagree with everything in this world just because of something wrong that MIGHT happen.

HAS Happened!!

Okay, so your position is that you're against the cost of ANYTHING increasing, because the additional revenue may be spent in a way that you don't deem appropriate?

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2016, 11:57:48 AM »
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Okay, so your position is that you're against the cost of ANYTHING increasing, because the additional revenue may be spent in a way that you don't deem appropriate?

That's my position!

I don't like their management plan so I don't want to give them a raise.  If I felt it was well used, I'd want to give them more.
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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2016, 12:02:42 PM »
yeah, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2016, 12:05:15 PM »
If only we could stop inflation!

Well, I guess there will be a few less waterfowl hunters. If you don't want to pay the extra $10, don't pay it and don't hunt waterfowl.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2016, 12:06:46 PM »
That's a 67% increase.  At 3% per year inflation that's 17 years.

When was the last time the price was raised?
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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2016, 12:10:01 PM »
It was $6.00 in 2000. Does that help?

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2016, 12:10:47 PM »
If the bill only redirected the funds to the appropriate use (migratory bird programs), I would have voted yes. 

Otherwise, I am not in favor of increasing funds to an agency that believes, what was it? half a million dollars?, was an appropriate use of funds for a wolf management program negotiator (for lack of a better recollection or characterization).

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2016, 12:19:57 PM »
That's a 67% increase.  At 3% per year inflation that's 17 years.

When was the last time the price was raised?
Was it changed to $15 in 2011?

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2016, 12:23:27 PM »
2011-2012 reg's show $13.20 for migratory bird authorization.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2016, 12:25:30 PM »
Was looking at the wrong thing- migratory bird permit was $16.50.

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Re: SB 6308: Migratory bird hunting fee
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2016, 12:35:34 PM »
By any measure this increase appears to be much greater than inflation would support. $50 in extras now just to hunt ducks. Personally I think that's completely unjustified.

Why only waterfowl? Should we start tacking on an extra fee for elk, deer, pheasants, and bear?

I'd much rather give my money to organizations like RMEF and DU.
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