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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2016, 07:51:10 PM »
So, right now it is private land with presumably no access and likely not managed to benefit wildlife.

WDFW buys it and the worst case scenario is that it is managed for wildlife with no access.

Worst case still has better wildlife habitat and the potential for greater access.

Exactly!

look at them.
In my area it include purchasing access to the 7400 line on the Wynoochee river.  Currently the gate is locked all because some fools decided it was okay to leave there trucks block the road.  Cost an entire days worth of operations to the landowner.

Other areas include wetlands next to wdfw lands that are good waterfowl habitat.

Not sure of any bad that comes from these acquisitions.  Also many need to understand that much of the funds used come from grants that if the WDFW does not apply for and use someone else will.  In some case NGO's like The Audubon Society could acquire and shut down for hunting.  Many of these grants come from taxes yet other organizations have access to them.  Take a look at some of the trusts that are purchasing lands with these dollar.  They are not public friendly at all.

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2016, 08:01:21 PM »
This will be interesting. I own 80 acres next to the land they propose to buy in Pacific County. I would sure like to know some details.

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2016, 08:05:13 PM »
This will be interesting. I own 80 acres next to the land they propose to buy in Pacific County. I would sure like to know some details.

What details?  Have you called and asked them?  Depending on the land you may find they will be good neighbors that you seldom see.  With occasional hunters whom most will respect your property rights.

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2016, 08:09:36 PM »
The proposals look good to me, like it was said earlier this is better than some group buying it that doesn't allow hunting
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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2016, 08:10:10 PM »
This will be interesting. I own 80 acres next to the land they propose to buy in Pacific County. I would sure like to know some details.

What details?  Have you called and asked them?  Depending on the land you may find they will be good neighbors that you seldom see.  With occasional hunters whom most will respect your property rights.
Total dice roll.  It could be as you describe, or it could have a nice parking lot and portapotties becoming the new high school kegger hangout or tweeker campground for thieving the area or lots of trespassers.

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2016, 08:12:11 PM »
So, right now it is private land with presumably no access and likely not managed to benefit wildlife.

WDFW buys it and the worst case scenario is that it is managed for wildlife with no access.

Worst case still has better wildlife habitat and the potential for greater access.

Exactly!

look at them.
In my area it include purchasing access to the 7400 line on the Wynoochee river.  Currently the gate is locked all because some fools decided it was okay to leave there trucks block the road.  Cost an entire days worth of operations to the landowner.

Other areas include wetlands next to wdfw lands that are good waterfowl habitat.

Not sure of any bad that comes from these acquisitions.  Also many need to understand that much of the funds used come from grants that if the WDFW does not apply for and use someone else will.  In some case NGO's like The Audubon Society could acquire and shut down for hunting.  Many of these grants come from taxes yet other organizations have access to them.  Take a look at some of the trusts that are purchasing lands with these dollar.  They are not public friendly at all.
:yeah:
The conservation easments do not require public access even if purchased with "public" money. It has happened in my area.

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2016, 08:14:41 PM »
It may be a good thing, but I am leary. Right now the land is leased out and off limits for me because I refuse to pay to hunt land I have hunted on since I was old enough to hunt. I have a picture of my mom with a cow elk she shot there in 1965 while pregnant with me, so I have been hunting that area for a long time. :-)

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2016, 08:29:48 PM »
Better the State than the Nature Conservancy. I am seeing more and more land bought by the NC and that is not a good thing.

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2016, 08:43:08 PM »
I agree better the State than the Nature Conservancy. I have been contacted by one of those organizations wanting to buy my land a few years ago.

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2016, 09:56:53 PM »
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When the WDFW acquires land, what is the cost of managing it? They don't necessarily need to spend any money to manage it. They simply need to buy it before it's sold to a developer who will subdivide it and sell it off in smaller parcels.

There are maintenance cost to any piece of property. I imagine there are laws and rules that drive those costs up to ensure the ground is managed in accordance with whatever agenda is in play.

Spot on about buying it before the builders get round to it.

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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2016, 11:28:33 PM »
It's ok, but I notice one parcel is out between Walla Walla and Touchet. Why not in the foot hills where plenty of deer hunting would benefit more?
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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2016, 11:32:55 PM »

It's ok, but I notice one parcel is out between Walla Walla and Touchet. Why not in the foot hills where plenty of deer hunting would benefit more?

Looks like they have their reasons:


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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2016, 11:55:29 PM »

It's ok, but I notice one parcel is out between Walla Walla and Touchet. Why not in the foot hills where plenty of deer hunting would benefit more?

Looks like they have their reasons:


ya wasn't' disagreeing with it just saying.
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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2016, 08:38:58 AM »
We have a corrupt system with corrupt "leaders".  Or....at least leaders who don't seem to take action to improve transparency, accountability or professionalism.  They continue to want more money and my stance is NO.

No more until you can manage what you have.  They don't need anything more on their plate as it seems clear to me they can't handle what they have.
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Re: WDFW land acquisition
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2016, 09:06:43 AM »
We have a corrupt system with corrupt "leaders".  Or....at least leaders who don't seem to take action to improve transparency, accountability or professionalism.  They continue to want more money and my stance is NO.

No more until you can manage what you have.  They don't need anything more on their plate as it seems clear to me they can't handle what they have.

I fully support any WDFW action to secure more public land and provide better access for recreation and better wildlife habitat.  Sure, they could be better but I don't want to sit around until perfection arrives before the access/habitat situation improves.

 


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