Mr. Brunsworth

[JDHasty]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,74974.0.html

And how about this: 

https://huntingspecialist.wordpress.com/2011/08/13/twisted-horn-outfitters-washington-blacktail-deer-hunts/

Hunting in the Rainforests of Washington are unlike any other hunting challenges in the World!

The thick underbrush and steep terrain offer long life to the famous Blacktail and Roosevelt Elk, some of the creatures known as Timber Ghosts! Growing up at the Foothills of the Cascades, Brian has learned how to predict the habits of these elusive animals, and in doing so, have skyrocketed their success rates on these Trophy’s!

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Let us help you put that Trophy Blacktail on your wall! No mistaken, these are the toughest deer to hunt anywhere. These deer live in thick brush and canopy timber.

So "Jimmy," watcha' got to say for yourself?  Did it smell like you were hunting in a rain forest?   What a diaper load.  Rain forest, shmain forest, GTHOH.   

[JDHasty]

*censored* offers a few different types of Deer hunts. Columbia Blacktail, Mule Deer, and the newly discovered Benchleg Buck. Benchleg Bucks, also known as Hybrid, are a cross combination of Blacktail, Whitetail, and Mule Deer. They can weigh up to 300 lbs on the hoof. None of these bucks look the same, they all have unique characteristics. When it comes to Benchlegs, non-typicals are typical. We are presently developing our Whitetail hunt opportunities to further enhance our offerings.

*censored*

So right here *censored* acknowledges that benchlegs are NOT blacktails.  Burnworth knows darned well that finding a true blacktail 40 or 50 miles east of the PCT and Cook WA is as about as likely as finding an honest politician in Olympia.   


"text removed due to threat of lawsuit"

[RadSav]

Newly discovered Benchlegs.  I guess if anything post ice age is considered "Newly"

[JDHasty]

Then there is this little gem: 

5-day guided archery Roosevelt Elk hunt for one hunter during the prime time peak of the rut during the September 2015 westside archery season, from their private 10,000 acre hunting area that borders the Mt. Adams Wilderness Area and bordered by an expansive wildlife refuge.

http://www.liveauctionworld.com/Twisted-Horn-Outfitters-Guided-Trophy-Washington-Archery-Elk-Hunt_i21629477

CATEGORY BOUNDARIES
FOR N.A. BIG GAME ACCEPTED IN THE BOONE AND CROCKETT RECORDS PROGRAM

Roosevelt’s elk are acceptable from Del Norte, Humboldt and Trinity Counties, California, as well as that portion of Siskiyou County west of I-5 in northern California; from west of Highway I-5 in Oregon and Washington; from Vancouver Island, B.C.; and from Afognak and Raspberry Islands of Alaska. The Alaskan animals are the result of a successful transplant from the Olympic Peninsula of Washington. To date no trophies from Alaska have been entered that reach the current all-time records book minimum score of 290. Most of the entered trophies to date have come from coastal Oregon and Washington, with a smaller number from Vancouver Island.

[Bigshooter]

The more you post less I care.

[JDHasty]

Then why do you keep coming back and reading what I have posted?    Nobody is forcing you to read it and nobody is forcing you to comment on what I have posted.   

[eastfork]

 
Big shooter is amazing!!!!you totally have lost your marbles!!!

[Bigshooter]

Big shooter is amazing!!!!

Thanks

[JDHasty]

You are 100% totally entitled to your opinions. 

My opinion is: From a man who much is entrusted, much is expected.  This man, Burnworth, has a lot entrusted to him.  Does he not?  If not then how so can it be that he is accepted as an "expert?"

He cannot be accepted as an expert on the subject at hand and not be reliable... or can he be?  How so, if the latter is proven to be the case?

Burnworth purports to be an expert in the subject matter being discussed and his testimony is DEMONSTRABLY impeachable.  Is it not?  Actually his words on the subject do not align with the facts according to any recognized authority in this matter.  He is, in the vernacular, BSing the audience, which it must be accepted, in the case of his global viewing audience (taken as a whole) - is uninformed.  His audience is National, is it not? 

OK, now, I am going to go out on a limb and say that Burnworth has to KNOW that he is stretching credulity to well past the breaking point.  In my book that makes him a bold faced liar, ESPECIALLY since he has been monitoring these pages and has an obligation to, at the very least, do due diligence and find out what is the truth before proceeding to add further insult to injury in publishing a video that leads future clients to book a hunt for a blacktail deer in a vicinity that blacktail deer shrink to insignificance in, when compared to the total number of deer to be found there.

It really boils down to this:  Burnworth is engaged in a commercial endeavor.  Burnworth was more likely than not paid to hunt with an outfitter who makes certain claims.  Burnworth doubles down on those claims.  Are those claims true?  Are they not true?  What is your source for saying that the claims are true?  I have made the case for the claims not being true.  Either put up or shut up.  Document how any claim that Burnworth made was true or what?  Claim that a blacktail deer is not a distinct species that is almost only found in certain distinct areas.  OK, document that.

I am not saying that Burnworth did not shoot a Columbia blacktail deer, I am saying I am skeptical, extremely skeptical, and B&C and the WDFW and every other source I can think of would be likewise - skeptical.  Extremely skeptical.


My claim is that claims Burnworth made were not consistent with the truth.  e.g. Burnworth claimed to have bagged a "trophy blacktail" when Burnworth new, or konws now, and has known long before the video was published to a nationwide audience, that the deer he shot was a benchleg.  A very nice benchleg, but a benchleg (a hybrid cross between mule deer and blacktail) and NOT a trophy blacktail deer.   

   

 

 

[Limhangerslayer]

All i can say that show was shot in two places.   Off the highway above the breaks of the klickitat and the second place was the baited area he killed the cactus "blacktail" buck in

[JDHasty]

Was the "baited" area east, or west of the line?  Was the baited area north of 50 miles east of that line?  AND finally, does the chance of encountering an honest to God blacktail buck within a fifty-mile radius of that site shrink to insignificance when compared to finding a benchleg buck within fifty miles of that specific location?  I am not saying that he did not shoot the only blacktail that happened to wander into his stand, I am saying that I would put 1,000:1 against it.   Actually, I would put the odds at 10,000;1 against it.  And you know that I am right.   

[Limhangerslayer]

Was the "baited" area east, or west of the line?  Was the baited area north of 50 miles east of that line?  AND finally, does the chance of encountering an honest to God blacktail buck within a fifty-mile radius of that site shrink to insignificance when compared to finding a benchleg buck within fifty miles of that specific location?  I am not saying that he did not shoot the only blacktail that happened to wander into his stand, I am saying that I would put 1,000:1 against it.   Actually, I would put the odds at 10,000;1 against it.  And you know that I am right.   

you took my quotations wrong!  Relax.   The buck i shot this year was a benchleg less then fifty miles as a crow flies from his kill. I've shot a buck within five miles of the breaks video he killed a cross and claimed blacktail end of sentence!  Turkey season is coming up !  Happy off season to everybody!

[JDHasty]

Was the "baited" area east, or west of the line?  Was the baited area north of 50 miles east of that line?  AND finally, does the chance of encountering an honest to God blacktail buck within a fifty-mile radius of that site shrink to insignificance when compared to finding a benchleg buck within fifty miles of that specific location?  I am not saying that he did not shoot the only blacktail that happened to wander into his stand, I am saying that I would put 1,000:1 against it.   Actually, I would put the odds at 10,000;1 against it.  And you know that I am right.   

you took my quotations wrong!  Relax.   The buck i shot this year was a benchleg less then fifty miles as a crow flies from his kill. I've shot a buck within five miles of the breaks video he killed a cross and claimed blacktail end of sentence!  Turkey season is coming up !  Happy off season to everybody!

It is absolutely not that I have anything against taking a Goldendale buck and looking for a nice one.  What i object to is four-flushing and worse on the part of a guy that is ONLY looking to enhance his resume' by claiming a goldendale buck is a blacktail.  For God's sake, I culd be Kirt Darner with Kirt Darner's lies.  I hunt hard.  Everybody that hunted with Kirt Darner says Kirt hunted hard.  But none of them was willing to validate his B&C bucks and from what we know now - not a single one was legitimate. 

But he got the "air time" because of his lies.  I guess it is what you are comfortable with when it comes to "creative editing" and I do not have a television.  But this Burnworth has a documented history of dry shaving his audience.  And because of his telegenic personality his audience spans the country.,  I guess I simply object to people who make a living off BS.