Online gun sales

[ffbowhunter]

So I'm in the market for either a tikka t3 or browning xbolt in 243 (feel free to share your opinions on this). I have been looking at gun broker and was wondering if you pay sales tax on online purchases?

[jackelope]

So I'm in the market for either a tikka t3 or browning xbolt in 243 (feel free to share your opinions on this). I have been looking at gun broker and was wondering if you pay sales tax on online purchases?

You should plan on paying Washington state use tax( I think that's what they call it ) and transfer fee at the FFL you choose to use for your transfer.

[Wea300mag]

Only online companies who are based in WA will charge sales tax. When the gun is shipped to a FFL in WA, some charge sales tax and some don't.

[jackelope]

Only online companies who are based in WA will charge sales tax. When the gun is shipped to a FFL in WA, some charge sales tax and some don't.

Pretty sure they are "supposed to", whether they do or not could be up in the air.

[bobcat]

I think you're better off going to a local dealer instead of buying online now that the state is requiring the FFL to collect tax.

[Wea300mag]

Only online companies who are based in WA will charge sales tax. When the gun is shipped to a FFL in WA, some charge sales tax and some don't.

Pretty sure they are "supposed to", whether they do or not could be up in the air.

I can say from LOTS of experience that some do and some don't.

[jackelope]

Only online companies who are based in WA will charge sales tax. When the gun is shipped to a FFL in WA, some charge sales tax and some don't.

Pretty sure they are "supposed to", whether they do or not could be up in the air.

I can say from LOTS of experience that some do and some don't.

I concur.

[Wea300mag]

I think you're better off going to a local dealer instead of buying online now that the state is requiring the FFL to collect tax.

I have never found a local deal that could match online if you shop around and know where to look.

[bobcat]

As far as Tikka or Browning, both are great choices. Another one to consider is the new Howa Alpine Mountain Rifle:

http://legacysports.com/alpine-mountain-rifle

[bobcat]

I think you're better off going to a local dealer instead of buying online now that the state is requiring the FFL to collect tax.

I have never found a local deal that could match online if you shop around and know where to look.

Walmart might be worth checking. I believe they can order anything you want.

[ffbowhunter]

I think you're better off going to a local dealer instead of buying online now that the state is requiring the FFL to collect tax.

I have never found a local deal that could match online if you shop around and know where to look.

Walmart might be worth checking. I believe they can order anything you want.

I can get a tikka t3 stainless for 700 plus tax locally. I refuse to step foot in a Walmart! Thanks for the advice guys. I love the action in the tikka but that browning is sure good looking!

[SemperFidelis97]

The Tikka is hard to beat my wifes .243 cloverleafs bullets at 200 yds, and is super light as well.  I have thought of picking one up myself my model 70 270 wsm is a tank.  I like the throw of the bolt as well as the aesthetics of the Browning, but given the choice I would go Tikka everytime.

[carvermoe]

You will love the t3. I have one in 300wsm. with a muzzle brake. It shoots awesome, light, and accurate

[CAMPMEAT]

www.gungenie.com is the best place to buy guns online. Give them a deposit, they ship it to an FFL dealer of your choice, all taxes and fees are paid when you pay the dealer the rest of the money. They are a lot better and cheaper than Gunbroker by far. You'll save money over a local dealer.

[TVHunts]

Since the Washington Governer got involved in on line gun sales to collect tax you should only be taxed when buying from a business not a private seller.  You can buy from private sellers on GunBroker as well as FFL holders/dealers.  The FFL I use only adds WST on incoming firearms from a business and never from a private seller.

Example: If you and A private seller go to a FFL per the fantastic new I-594 law and transfer a gun you bought from him or her do you pay tax when doing the transfer?  No, you don't or shouldn't, you only pay the transfer fee.  Same goes for a sale from any private party regardless of where they reside or where it was shipped from. 

If you have the patience and aren't in a hurry you can find very good under market deals on GunBroker.  Not so much on GunsAmerica or GunAuction.com, both of those sites in my experience tend to have higher prices. 

Good luck!

[Antlershed]

FFL's have always been required to collect the tax if you buy online. 594 didn't change that. Like mentioned, some choose to not collect it though.

[300UltraMagShooter]

If you play by their rules when you have perfectly legal other options, you are already a slave, and will cause us all to become slaves n the end.

Off to  planning my next hunt.  Good luck.

[Antlershed]

If you play by their rules when you have perfectly legal other options, you are already a slave, and will cause us all to become slaves n the end.

Off to  planning my next hunt.  Good luck.

What are you talking about?

[TVHunts]

FFL's have always been required to collect the tax if you buy online. 594 didn't change that. Like mentioned, some choose to not collect it though.

I don't recall the year exactly, I am guessing about 2010 or so they started collecting on Internet sales at several FFL's I was using at the time.   I can't say for sure if it was required or not prior to then but, I had never paid tax prior to then.  I was specifically told by a few dealers it was now required by the state.  I dont know if it was simply not enforced prior to then or if there was a law change but, I was told it was a law change then.  Maybe someone else recalls it also. 

Below is the current law per 594

http://dor.wa.gov/docs/pubs/specialnotices/2014/sn_14_firearms.pdf


The distinction the way I read it is did the weapon come from a private seller or a "dealer/FFL".   

[TVHunts]

I guess I should that per page two after not being charged the tax because you purchased from a private party that you are supposed to go home and send a check to the state for the tax that the FFL wasn't required to collect from you. Which of course I do every time 

[HighlandLofts]

Since the Washington Governer got involved in on line gun sales to collect tax you should only be taxed when buying from a business not a private seller.  You can buy from private sellers on GunBroker as well as FFL holders/dealers.  The FFL I use only adds WST on incoming firearms from a business and never from a private seller.

Example: If you and A private seller go to a FFL per the fantastic new I-594 law and transfer a gun you bought from him or her do you pay tax when doing the transfer?  No, you don't or shouldn't, you only pay the transfer fee.  Same goes for a sale from any private party regardless of where they reside or where it was shipped from. 

If you have the patience and aren't in a hurry you can find very good under market deals on GunBroker.  Not so much on GunsAmerica or GunAuction.com, both of those sites in my experience tend to have higher prices. 

Good luck!

TV
 What FFL transfer guy do you use?


To the original poster, buying online can save you cash. Every year I buy guns from out of State and have them shipped here to JC's Pawn Shop up in Mt. Vernon to do the transfer. They always charge the BS Washington State "Use Tax".

A couple of years ago I bought a new Sig Saur Mosquito from Piazza Jewlery & Pawn out of Missouri, With the shipping, transfer fee and the "Use Tax it was cheaper then Cabelas base price for the same gun, so searching around can save you money on your purchase.

I buy older 22 rifles and older 410 shotguns, many from out of State, I got a C&R Permit, I buy these guns, send them a copy of my Permit and get them shipped directly to me at the house. It is a Class 3 FFL License, so no transfer needed, My first purchase paid for the $30 - 3 year permit.
These Permits are good for guns over 50 years old, Military Guns and Commemorative Guns.
I'll be picking up a 22 Handgun locally in a week or two with my C&R Permit, non NICS Check, just finish paying it off, give them a signed copy of my Permit and go home with it.


Check out ArmsList in different States for the gun you are looking for, I've found some good deals looking else where. Some times you can make an offer and get it at for lees the advertised.
By the way, nice choice of rifles.

[DRobnsn]

If you play by their rules when you have perfectly legal other options, you are already a slave, and will cause us all to become slaves n the end.

Off to  planning my next hunt.  Good luck.

What are you talking about?

 

[Wazukie]

I always get a good deal from my local FFL.  IF I can get it $20 or even $50 cheaper on line, I'll still give my money to my FFL here locally.  Besides, he's a great guy and a member here!  Split Diamond for me for all firearm purchases unless they fall under C&R.