Unethical Hunter episode????

[jackelope]

I called wdfw this year 3 days before general rifle season because my wife  admittedly tossed my transport tag in the garbage not knowing what it was(long story)...they said oh yeah no problem...just go and get another one...$10.00 later no problems, i had a new tag. the whole time i was amazed how easy it was to get another tag. the high hunt had happened at this point, so i could easily have killed a deer, then went and bought another tag for $10.00. i was confused by this, but relieved that i could get another tag. i'm sure people take advantage of this at some point.

[Fesup]

I think your seeing more and more of this and have heard of guys being shot at while in pursuit and wearing hunters orange so clearly visible. buddy of mine had a guy lay a few rounds through his windshield when the guy claimed my buddy went after his elk. the Oregon state police arrested that guy who turned out to be a felon and should not have been out there to begin with. but everyone Ive talked too about this agree on one thing it gotten worse and continues to  as more land is gated and hunters are packed into an area. now some may say they like the locked gates. But as in my father in law bad heart bad knees but loves to hunt he was heart broken when the gates were locked . he got a disabled  hunt what joke that was there was more people in there then the other units. some say alot of the northest  was wilderness  and often walked in. but in rebuttal there also wasn't as many hunters, the timber companies say it saves there lands from us destructive hunters, I don't think opening gates for the hunting seasons could be that damaging. if they want to talk damage why don't they go back to the buck saws and mule team logging?that's how it once was. they didn't walk in then either. has anyone ever talked to an old logger or seen the photos where they rode the log trains into the high country and returned with some nice big bucks just lined on the flat rail cars? Safety is number one for our hunts and its getting where we are just not feeling safe out there.

[andrew_12gauge]

I hate to bring this one up again but last year on opening day of the general season my cousin and i were making a stalk on a nice buck that we had seen duck into a draw, we wouldve had about a 200 yard shot as it was a tiny little draw. as we're sneaking up on the buck we look off to our left and see a guy and his wife on horseback come riding in fast ride right into the middle of the draw push the buck out and start chasing it. When the guy finally realizes he aint catchin this buck on horses he jumps off of his horse and starts shooting up a storm as the buck is running at about 600 yards after his first four shots the buck has stopped running and is now limping along very slowly. So we keep following just to kinda watch and see, this guy rides his horse up within 50 yards of the deer and empties two more clips at it with no result, by this point i am set up at 200 yards with a clear shot angle on the deer and i was about to finish it off when he reloaded and finally hit the deer, putting it down. so we come up to check the deer out and it was about a 26" 4x3 but the guy actually had the nerve to complain about the size of the deer. all he said was i thought it was bigger. he was from oregon by the way, explains everything.

[Houndhunter]

i dont hunt in area's that have alota people, usually go back in a few miles. but if i ever saw some one tryin to clam my deer that i was sure is mine, i wouldnt think twice bout pullin my gun on him

[billythekidrock]

but if i ever saw some one tryin to clam my deer that i was sure is mine, i wouldnt think twice bout pullin my gun on him

Why would you let something like a deer (and an a-hole) get you in a situation that could ruin the rest of your life?

[HuntingFanatic]

i dont hunt in area's that have alota people, usually go back in a few miles. but if i ever saw some one tryin to clam my deer that i was sure is mine, i wouldnt think twice bout pullin my gun on him

You have to be kidding me!?!? pulling a gun means that you are prepared to use it!!!!!! That is obsurd! Its a freakin deer! If that deer means more than yours or someone elses life, have at it!

[ICEMAN]

i dont hunt in area's that have alota people, usually go back in a few miles. but if i ever saw some one tryin to clam my deer that i was sure is mine, i wouldnt think twice bout pullin my gun on him

Listen here junior....you are 17 years old. I am sure you think you know everything better than all of us.....

Your dad needs to take you aside and explain what the consequences are for your little suggestion.

Remember, we all see things differently. Not all think like you. Someone claiming your deer? What if they thought it was theirs......?

You pull a gun on many men here, you may go home in a box. Watch what you say. Watch what you do.

I suggest going back and removing or editing your stupid comment, and rejoining our discussion in a week or so, after you lick your wounds and realize what a foolish, childlike, immature comment you accidently have made.

I welcome your input, just think twice.

[flashover52]

Pulling a gun on them?!?!     

Let me tell you a little story. A friend was hunting in CO during elk season some years ago. Being a resident of Estes Park, she and some of her female friends used to hunt as a group year after year. After she dropped a good sized bull and approached it, four guys approached through the woods and told her to get away from thier elk.

"Your elk?" she says. One of them explained that there were four of them and only one of her. She keyed up a rather powerful Motorola radio and said, "these four fella's think they're taking my elk."

As the multiple voices crackled back over the radio, the four guys decided to high tail back to their truck with Texas plates after the fourth female voice that responded back said, "tell the fat little fella on the right with the plaid shirt that I've got my sights on his forehead."

Moral of the story.....just because you got a gun, don't believe that the other guys (or gals) might have you outgunned.   

Absolutely no reason to get into a shooting match with someone over an animal. There's more important things in life......I'd rather go back and see my family at the end of the day. It sure beats being dead or sitting in a cell block.

[boneaddict]

I was 20 years old, turning 21 in a week when I was hunting up above my Dads.  I shot a 2 point buck down the ridge and was walking to it.  I saw a guy running over to it.  I figured he was headed there to admire it.  I got down to it and he had put his tag on it.  The only words he said were better luck next time.  I can tell you I was so mad at him, that I didn't say a word.  If I had, my tempr may have got the best of me and this could have escalated into one of us being killed.  I didn't figure the stupid 2 point was worth it.  I can imagine if it had been a bigger buck things would have been different, with not such a happy ending.  I figure if that guy was so pitiful thathe ad to steal that scrawny 2 point, he could have it.  I went on and shot a dandy buck.  I guess God rewarded me.  You have got to have bricks for brains to steal something from an armed man. 

[boneaddict]

Jack....I know all about losing you tag as you know what happened to my NM tag.

[huntingnut]

The only thing worth dying for is your family and your country. The last time I looked none of us four legs or horns.  Quick anger only gets you in trouble.

[HntnFsh]

I totally agree with everybody saying its best to walk away from a confrontation.Just what I would do.

Of course if I know the person or what they drive,they may have hell to pay later (kidding)

Several years ago,when I was much younger,and dumber.I was tracking a herd of elk that still had a spike in it.Legal back then.They worked their way around and started to cross a road.I heard a rig come by and cut them off.

Sure enough here they come.Right back to me.Cow,cow,cow,spike.Boom!!! I drilled him.

One of the locals thats known for pulling the kind of crap thats been talked about comes down the trail.He asks if I got him.Yep,I answer.Wheres it at he says.Over there I ponted. He says,did you tag him yet? I said not yet.He says,you better or somebody will take it from you.I looked straight at him and said.If anybody ever tries to take an animal from me they'll be laying by it!

He immediately turned around and left without saying another word.

Like I say,I would never threaten or advise threatening anybody anymore.Fortunately we get older and wiser.

[HuntinCrazy]

This is a goodie;  my son and I were elk hunting up in the 340 unit back in 2000. Opening morning these dill rods start popping shots down a canyon I'm set up in. Then I hear   "I got em" yelled at the top of this guys lungs. A frickin Yote!!!!!!!!..........  You have got to be kidding me I yelled across the canyon. (This was the 5th year we hunting in the same spot with no troubles at all) Hiking in well before shooting light. Yes hiking not just driving your 4x4 up a road and wait for something to happen. We camp on this nasty ridge with wall tents.
 Now comes the 6th year. I'm in my stand up the canyon 3 days into the season when I hear a shot. VERY close and behind me. Then another.By now the hair on the back of my neck is standing up.  my stand is about 400 yards off  end of a RED road. No motorized rigs at all! I hear my son in my ear piece........POPS was that you that shot? He was over 2 canyons. HELL NOOOOO.............these A$$Holes are shooting behind me. Then all hell broke loose. Shotguns........SKS.........pistols whizzing over me head. I hit the deck as rounds came flying with in a couple feet of me. ME YELLING...........HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY someones down hear. My is my blaze jacket and hat. No response from them  The shots keep coming. I am back on the radio calling for my son. Our walk talkies are set so only we can hear or talk with anyone else listening to us. I could not hear anymore from my son. I changed over to another channel and let out a mayday for all to hear. By this time I had my blaze off and only camo showing. This guy answers me back. He can hear the gun shots through the mic when I was trying to give him my location. He asks me if I have been wounded or hurt. I hadn't.  My only option so they can hear someone is down here was to fire my .338mag into the base of a stump 50 or so yards away from me..... CRACK! 
Then they hold off shooting for about 30 seconds while I am guessing they are reloading. Then the bullets start flying again. This time ricochets off rocks right in my direction.   The guy on the other end of the radio lives out of Thorp and was a fireman.  Trying to calm me down as I am tell him I have been through this crap before in SE Asia and I am going put a round over these guys heard into a tree OR have to take them out.. By now my son came up and over 2 ridges and deep canyons. He could hear us talk on the radio for I couldn't hear him. These guys are still shooting all this time. Maybe 40-50 rounds total.  Then all of a sudden I hear another shot ring out from almost the same direction. MY SON!He stopped about 150 yds away from these guys He yelled at these guys to STOP SHOOTING my fathers down there. These two punks almost fainted. My son got there license plate # and called it in to the FD guy. hiked back to camp about 2 miles I was a still bit shook. The  Gentleman Jack took the edge off when we got back.
So now I bow hunt.

[Broken Arrow]

An ounce of prevention?

My buddies and I have one technique to get "undesirables" out of an area, and possible eliminate some of these scenarios. If you are asking yourself what is an undesirable?...you are one...trust me...for the rest of us you know what I'm talking about. Fortunately, as a bow hunter i don't run into to many of these folks, let alone see anyone in the woods, but when I do, and I recognize them as an undesirable.....I begin with this.

Me - Hi, how ya doing?
them - uh....OK, why?

me - Just wondering, hows the hunting going?
them - uh....OK...why?

me- well i have several buddies up this area and were hunting elk...just don't want to bump paths
them - well have you seen anything?

me- well, not really but two guys in my party got of some nice sound shots. were gonna go back in the morning to see if we hit what was rusting that brush!

them- wide eyed and leaving


Just kidding folks....aways wanted to say that though to some of these jokers, who do these kind of things.....good stories all, though sad some folks carry themselves in this manner.

[littletoes]

Hunting with my Dad, almost 15 years ago, we hear a shot just around the hill from us, so we just naturaly walk around that way.

We run into this 80 some-odd year old guy who claims to have shot a "nice buck". I tell him, ok wheres it at? He points up the hill...so I tell him we'll go have a look, then asked him, by the way, where did you hit him? He said "in the heart", I said ok, then walked up the hill.

My Dad walks right up to it, then shoots it in the heart. To this day he still surprised me on how fast he found that deer...but we head back down.

Almost to the bottom we run into that old guy again, and he's puffing his way up, had me scared he was going to have a heart attack! I tell him to slow it down some, before he had the big one, and that hell, he had the rest of his hunting season to get that deer. Also scolded him for shooting the bottom jaw off that deer (too many damn hunters don't practice enough!).

Then asked him if he had any help in the area, he said yea, his nephew. I said good, then went to find him, hell he turned out to be older than my Dad!

Taught me two things, most hunters don't have a clue where their bullets are going, and most think somebody wants to steal thier deer.