If you were to design a wildcat, what would it be?

[crabcreekhunter]

Berger has a new .277 170 grain vld with a bc of .7 or so and a pretty high sectional density but have to check the numbers again but thought of necking down a bigger 30 cal of some sort, something a little different to fall between the 6.5s and 7s

[b23]

When Kirby Allen was frist building me a rifle I was going to go with his 277 Allen Mag which is a 338 Lapua, improved to his shoulder, necked down to .277 but the supply of 169.5 Wildcat bullets ceased to exist so went with a 300AX for the, new then, 230 Bergers.

But, with Berger now offering a 170gr high BC 270 bullet, a 270-338 Lap. Imp. could be a lot more fun.

A few years ago I talked to Kirby about doing a joint venture on a 375-416Barrett with Kirby's proprietary taper and shoulder angle.  I thought it could be a fun project and give a sizable increase in velocity over the 375-408 CHEYTAC imp. stuff but he didn't think the increase would be substantial enough to warrant the expense.  I still think a 375-416 Barrett Improved would be pretty cool.  There was a guy over on long range hunting dot com that assembled the parts and pieces to build one but if I recall he developed health issues and it never progressed beyond him getting all the stuff to build it.

[WoodlandShooter]

Definitely going to either go to a 6.5-06 or a 8 twist 270 when my current barrel is toast...

[theleo]

How's about a 17-300 WSM? It'll just be none as the 17 Death Ray.

[jasnt]

How's about a 17-300 WSM? It'll just be none as the 17 Death Ray.

i wonder if they would even hold together. That would be like mile per second at the muzzle. I think it was bigger hammer that was playing with 110 vmax in a 30-378 that would shoot bullets like buck shot

[theleo]

How's about a 17-300 WSM? It'll just be none as the 17 Death Ray.

i wonder if they would even hold together. That would be like mile per second at the muzzle. I think it was bigger hammer that was playing with 110 vmax in a 30-378 that would shoot bullets like buck shot

Well if you are going to interject reality into my land of make believe, of course it won't. How about a 20 wssm? I've got a couple of wild cats. My bucket list experiment is using my 280ai with 110 grain TNT's on rock chucks. I want to be the spotter, someone else can pull the trigger.

[Bill W]

How's about a 17-300 WSM? It'll just be none as the 17 Death Ray.

i wonder if they would even hold together. That would be like mile per second at the muzzle. I think it was bigger hammer that was playing with 110 vmax in a 30-378 that would shoot bullets like buck shot

Well if you are going to interject reality into my land of make believe, of course it won't. How about a 20 wssm? I've got a couple of wild cats. My bucket list experiment is using my 280ai with 110 grain TNT's on rock chucks. I want to be the spotter, someone else can pull the trigger.

Who's gonna investigate the "crime scene".   That could be messy.

[theleo]

How's about a 17-300 WSM? It'll just be none as the 17 Death Ray.

i wonder if they would even hold together. That would be like mile per second at the muzzle. I think it was bigger hammer that was playing with 110 vmax in a 30-378 that would shoot bullets like buck shot

Well if you are going to interject reality into my land of make believe, of course it won't. How about a 20 wssm? I've got a couple of wild cats. My bucket list experiment is using my 280ai with 110 grain TNT's on rock chucks. I want to be the spotter, someone else can pull the trigger.

Who's gonna investigate the "crime scene".   That could be messy.

That was my assumption when I used that load on a couple of coyotes. I was surprised the only visible damage when I walked up was an entrance hole. My 243 with 100 grain Interlocks makes a substantially bigger mess of them. I guess the real deciding factor would be the bounce test. Bounce the bullet off the rock that a chuck is standing on and see what rifle launches them higher.

[Bill W]

When Nosler first came out with the ballistic tips I shot some 70 grain ones out of a .243 on rockchucks.  It left them standing but bored a hole clean thru and put a spray on the rocks behind them.   The .22-250 with a 52 grain HP would throw them thru the air like a frisbee.

[high country]

given the quest for speed and power, one must notice that things like the 6 cm are making money....

[yorketransport]

A few years ago I talked to Kirby about doing a joint venture on a 375-416Barrett with Kirby's proprietary taper and shoulder angle.  I thought it could be a fun project and give a sizable increase in velocity over the 375-408 CHEYTAC imp. stuff but he didn't think the increase would be substantial enough to warrant the expense.  I still think a 375-416 Barrett Improved would be pretty cool.  There was a guy over on long range hunting dot com that assembled the parts and pieces to build one but if I recall he developed health issues and it never progressed beyond him getting all the stuff to build it.

I looked into this about a year ago and came across the posts from LRH. I still have t ruled the idea out, I'm just waiting until I can get my hands on a gain twist barrel for the project.

 

given the quest for speed and power, one must notice that things like the 6 cm are making money....

I think they all have a place out there. One of my favorite guns is a 6mm BR boltsction pistol just because it's fun and affordable to shoot. It's a different kind of fun than the 375 BME or 6.5 Badger though. The big stuff is like a drag car that only comes out once in a while and the BR/Creedmore/lapua class rounds are like daily drivers.

Right now I'm plotting with Gunsmith X on an appropriate platform for a 7.62x25 case necked down to 6mm. It would be like an FN 5.7 on steroids shooting the 55gr bullets.

[AWS]

I did a number of years àgo.  The year after the 204 Ruger came out I necked it to .257 and it shoots 100gr Partitions at 2800+ fps out of a 22" barrel.  Rather pedestrian in this day of LR glory but it is one heck of a deer rifle mirroring the ballistics of the original 257 Roberts ànd 250-3000 Savage both proven deer cartridges for nearly 100 years.

[yorketransport]

I did a number of years àgo.  The year after the 204 Ruger came out I necked it to .257 and it shoots 100gr Partitions at 2800+ fps out of a 22" barrel.  Rather pedestrian in this day of LR glory but it is one heck of a deer rifle mirroring the ballistics of the original 257 Roberts ànd 250-3000 Savage both proven deer cartridges for nearly 100 years.

That's a potent little round!

[high country]

I'm thinking a 223ai designed to push 80's from a steel case with a load of unique. The case should handle 200kpsi and the bolt will.

[Bill W]

I did a number of years àgo.  The year after the 204 Ruger came out I necked it to .257 and it shoots 100gr Partitions at 2800+ fps out of a 22" barrel.  Rather pedestrian in this day of LR glory but it is one heck of a deer rifle mirroring the ballistics of the original 257 Roberts ànd 250-3000 Savage both proven deer cartridges for nearly 100 years.

There was a wildcat in the mid-80's that was a .257 based off of the .222 Mag case.   The Kimber down in Oregon chambered a/some rifle(s) in it.  One of the salesmen for the old F&H news had one.