30-06 accelerator rounds for coyotes

[FC]

It's not so much a particular cartridge that is accurate or not accurate, it's the rifle.

I will agree to disagree.

http://www.snipercountry.com/articles/accuracyfacts.asp

[bobcat]

I realize some cartridges are "inherently" more accurate than others. But when you're talking about deer and elk rifles, you're not going to see much difference in accuracy between the 308 and the 30-06. Your standard bolt action hunting rifle can be made to shoot 1/2 inch groups just as easily with a 30-06 as with a 308. It's not until you start getting into the heavy benchrest type rifles where you're going to see any advantage to a 308 over the 30-06. And since this is a hunting sight, I was talking hunting accuracy, not benchrest rifle accuracy.

[bobcat]

Besides, didn't you post previously that the 30-06 is "very accurate" 

[FC]

Besides, didn't you post previously that the 30-06 is "very accurate" 

Yes I did! It took a 7.62x51 to beat it!

[bobcat]

Well, all I know is there are plenty of accurate 30-06 rifles out there. But of course, it may depend on a person's definiton of "accurate." Do you believe that if a person were to go out and buy two rifles, one in 308 and one in 30-06, but otherwise identical, that the 308 would be the more accurate rifle the majority of the time?

[trotterlg]

I've done some fairly extensive testing on the "accelerator" type of rounds.  I have never been able to get one that will shoot less than about 8 inches at 100 yards or talked to any one else that will even claim they have seen one that will beat that.  They do go fast however.  They are a nitch or gimmic type of round, if they were that good they would be on every shelf and they are not.  A 30-06 for Coyotes?  Just shoot what ever you have, it just doesn't matter, it will be total distruction.  Larry

[bobcat]

Well, a guy could try those reduced recoil loads that Remington and maybe one more company sells. If you were interested in shooting coyotes without destroying them. Another option would be to use a Barnes bullet, which is hard enough that it may not expand at all.

[trotterlg]

There are definately cartridges that are more accurate than others, in BR shooting just take a look at the percentage that shoot 6MM BR's.  A 308 will have an advantage over a 30-06 any day of the week, you may find a 30-06 that will out shoot a 308, but there will be alot more 308's that will out shoot the 30-06's out there.  But, who cares if you are shooting an elk at 20 yards.  I was thiking this was thread about accelerator rounds in a 30-06?  Thread drift I guess..................Larry

[bobcat]

Yeah well I think it was determined in the very beginning of this thread that accelerators are pretty much useless. What good are they if you can't hit anything that's farther than 50 yards. So yes, "thread drift" I guess you would call it. I think it really started drifting off course when someone questioned the accuracy of the 30-06 cartridge itself.   

[FC]

Do you believe that if a person were to go out and buy two rifles, one in 308 and one in 30-06, but otherwise identical, that the 308 would be the more accurate rifle the majority of the time?

Yes actually I do, have a read on that article I linked at what military rifles were able to do with military match ammo. Those were standard weighted rifles not 40lb railroad tie mounted freaks.

For hunting I also think it would be moot within reasonable range (300 yards or less) but yes the .308 is pretty well proven to be significantly more accurate.

[bobcat]

I guess I need to go out and buy a 308 and test that theory for myself.   

[FC]

"thread drift"

LoL...I think a special smilie is needed!

[Jellymon]

I dont know, 30-06 is pretty accurate for me. Ruger M77 MK2 with a 22" sporter barrel and a 8 1/2lb trigger. Stock gun. these are from 100yds.

[Special T]

So i got done shooting some of the custom accelerator reloads and wanted to tell /show you how it worked out.. At 50 yards the first 3 shots looked like we hit a home run.. very tight group with 2 holes touching... Then we moved it out to 100yrds... not so impressive Aiming for for the center square the first 3 rounds went hi 2 to the Left and one way high and slightly right... I must at this was using a adjustable front rest and sand bag on a shooting table... VERY stable... We then loaded a Remington factory accelerator round. it is the hole low and left in the corner of the black 2in square... We tried shooting at the lower right  square... we shot in 3 shot groups... the 2 grouped closely together wear the first and last shot... I also tried shooting at a steel gong at 300yrds.. 1ft wide by 2ft tall.. could not hit it.. We used the starter kit from https://www.eabco.com/reload02.html  to do the loading... we used some bulk nosler 55grain hollow points for the test... wasn't really impressed.. the factory ammo cronoed at 4200 fps and the reloads were faster but crono kept registering the plastic jacket  because the bullet had already suppurated... I still have some of the factory rounds and 10 of the reloads if anyone else is interested in doing something with this, but i was not particularly impressed.. neither was Bob the guy i worked with doing the custom reloading...

[Hornseeker]

Yowsa!!! Not good accurracy!!

As for the 308 being "more accurate" than an 06'.....     

Seriously, like to see those tests...