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$400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« on: February 29, 2016, 11:35:29 PM »
Someone posted in the other big game section about a guy who spent $150K for a WA big horn sheep tag. I decided to check out the auction site and ran across the Arizona tag. :yike:

http://www.onlinehuntingauctions.com/2016-Arizona-Special-License-Mule-Deer-Tag_i24090945
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2016, 08:45:06 PM »
A Giant  must be lurking !

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 09:00:57 PM »
Wow!!!
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 04:07:41 AM »
I heard the antelope island tag went for $410,000!

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2016, 06:45:43 AM »
good for them !

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2016, 06:49:46 AM »
good for them !
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2016, 11:06:58 AM »
when I hit the powerball it wont be pretty !

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2016, 09:32:45 PM »
Is it a chance to get your name in the record books or can a person also justify it by saying it helps fund conservation?
How much would you pay to get in the record books?
How much would you donate to conservation?
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2016, 08:38:31 AM »

Is it a chance to get your name in the record books or can a person also justify it by saying it helps fund conservation?
How much would you pay to get in the record books?
How much would you donate to conservation?

For the guys buying these tags, paying $400k is like the regular guys paying $400. It's probably a little bit of everything you mentioned and then some that drives them to spend that money. The money has to come from somewhere. I know that.
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2016, 09:04:03 AM »

Is it a chance to get your name in the record books or can a person also justify it by saying it helps fund conservation?
How much would you pay to get in the record books?
How much would you donate to conservation?

For the guys buying these tags, paying $400k is like the regular guys paying $400. It's probably a little bit of everything you mentioned and then some that drives them to spend that money. The money has to come from somewhere. I know that.
I'm assuming they could be tax write offs too....

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2016, 10:21:14 AM »
If I won the powerball I'd do it.... The money supposedly goes to the right place, its a tax right off, and I'd get to hunt monster mule deer. Id tell mossback to shove it and get someone else to help me out with the hunt. Some guys wouldn't spend the money on a hunt like this. But like I said if I one the powerball I'd buy some hunts for me, family, and friends. Give some guys that once in a lifetime amazing hunt. You'd be wishing you were my friend. Before I go broke at least LOL

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2016, 09:04:35 PM »
I heard the antelope island tag went for $410,000!

 This guy has purchased it a few times. http://www.sltrib.com/home/2212820-155/antelope-island-trophy-mule-deer-tag
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2016, 09:20:51 PM »
Nice buck but not a fan at all of auction tags. Wish WA would stop before they end up like Utah.

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2016, 09:24:27 PM »
I heard the antelope island tag went for $410,000!

 This guy has purchased it a few times. http://www.sltrib.com/home/2212820-155/antelope-island-trophy-mule-deer-tag
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2016, 09:34:31 PM »
If I won the powerball I'd do it.... The money supposedly goes to the right place, its a tax right off, and I'd get to hunt monster mule deer....

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2016, 02:57:22 PM »
I wonder how you hunt with a "boy and arrow"? Do you send the boy out to poke the deer with the arrow? :)

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2016, 02:06:34 PM »
Nice buck but not a fan at all of auction tags. Wish WA would stop before they end up like Utah.
Why aren't you a fan of auction tags?  They are matched 1-for1 with any raffle tag, and provide a huge boost of revenue to put on the ground for that species.  90% goes to the state that provides the tag, for conservation work for that species, and 10% goes to the group that auctions it, for them to use on conservation.  What's not to like about that program?
Example: The Antelope Island tag sold for $410,000 this year, with 90% going onto the island for wildlife conservation, and 10% going into other conservation projects by the groups that sold the tag.  And, there will also be 1 raffle tag winner for the same tag, which will cost that person $5.  So two winners, providing $410,005 towards conservation, instead of just the $5 raffle winner.  A big difference for our wildlife
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2016, 02:17:56 PM »
not that anyone cares but I don't have a problem as long as the money is actually goes to better the herds, as with a lot of things when there is a lot of money involved usually greed and corruption soon follow

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2016, 02:45:48 PM »
I've heard that after 200 million, you can't hardly spend it fast enough.

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2016, 02:46:33 PM »
Id like to see how and when the monies are spent.   Where theres that much money, there is a high likely hood that some of it will go for things not originally intended.

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2016, 02:50:21 PM »
Id like to see how and when the monies are spent.   Where theres that much money, there is a high likely hood that some of it will go for things not originally intended.
Look it up.  It's all published for the public to view, to make sure it is spent in the right areas.  For any non-profit, they are required to publish their IRS 990 forms, showing where every cent goes that they spend.  For the conservation tags, state agencies are required to report where those funds go, and both entities are audited yearly just for that purpose.  There is nothing hidden, you just have to go look it up.
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2016, 02:57:55 PM »
Id like to see how and when the monies are spent.   Where theres that much money, there is a high likely hood that some of it will go for things not originally intended.
Example from an article written specifically about the auction tags on Antelope Island, both deer and bighorn:

In 2015, the revenue from the Antelope Island permits was used to pay for a $60,000 renovation of four water springs on the island so they could produce and hold more water for the wildlife, Shaw said. Each year, park officials also plant 40-60 acres of vegetation on the island to help support the animals.

"It is extremely expensive and extremely labor intensive because you have to have somebody grow the starts and then we have to have somebody plant them by hand," Shaw said. "And it's very expensive to grow native seeds. We do lots of habitat manipulation in order to better grow vegetation that will support those animals."

With the revenue generated from this year's record-selling permit, Shaw said there are plans to build another water spring that will hold around 100,000 gallons of water and will cost about $350,000.

Along with the Antelope Island State Park mule deer and bighorn sheep permits, DWR auctions off around 30 other hunting permits each year at the Western Hunting and Conservation Expo and 90 percent of those proceeds are used to help with wildlife conservation projects around the state, Sheehan said.

Sheehan said in order to manage growing wildlife herds and to help maintain sustainable numbers on the island, several deer and bighorn sheep are relocated from the park to other areas around the state each year. Fifty bighorn sheep were recently moved from Antelope Island to other areas, and during the past two years, 200 mule deer were also relocated, Sheehan said.
 
If you want a dollar by dollar breakdown, it is recorded and can be accessed thru Utah DWR.
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2016, 03:14:02 PM »
i was on Antelope Island Thursday and couldn't help but think of how unclimatic this hunt would be, bout the same as buying the antler set off eBay except do it from your laptop while outside. :twocents:
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2016, 08:47:21 AM »
For $400,000.00 the antlers and bones better be made of solid gold, and the blood of the finest wine. That's the most rediculous wasteless spending ever! Rather keep the $.
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2016, 08:57:21 AM »
I think it's ridiculous on this website how people judge individuals for the way they choose to spend their money. Especially for spending their money on awesome hunts that in the end support animals and protect our traditions.

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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2016, 09:44:09 AM »
For $400,000.00 the antlers and bones better be made of solid gold, and the blood of the finest wine. That's the most rediculous wasteless spending ever! Rather keep the $.

So you're against funding conservation by donation?
 
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2016, 09:44:58 AM »
I think it's ridiculous on this website how people judge individuals for the way they choose to spend their money. Especially for spending their money on awesome hunts that in the end support animals and protect our traditions.

It's not just on this website. There's lots of drama over these type hunts all over the west. Trust me, it's not just a hunt-wa thing.
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Re: $400K Arizona Mule Deer Auction Hunt
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2016, 09:48:26 AM »
I appreciate these rich folks donating copious amounts of $$$ to our wildlife..
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