« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2016, 09:09:13 AM »
When you have force fetch trained a dog they understand that when you give the command "fetch" they have NO choice but to come back with what you have told them to retrieve so yes it does help with teaching them other things. I agree that you never use a e collar unless it is to enforce something the dog has already been taught.
force fetch and "here" are two worldly different concepts and training approaches. "Here" can be it's own force program on some dogs. Especially, ones which are not automatically reliable retrievers right out of the box.

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