Sierra Match Kings (SMK's) for Deer Hunting

[BULLBLASTER]

He didn't state that the berger target had a thicker jacket than the smk's.  He said the target vld had a thicker jacket than the hunting vld

If the hunting vld has a thinner jacket, I would assume it would be closer to the SMK than the target vld

Careful. This is a discussion/debate between 2 engineers. This could get a little more nuts.

Are you sure about that? My standing as an engineer has already been questioned once in this thread by the other engineer... I'm not sure I count anymore. 

I deal with engineers every day. I wouldn't expect anything less.

  

[Karl Blanchard]

I'm def not an engineer but I can add 1+1=2.  I think people are making this more complicated than it is. 

Step 1. Have accurate rifle
Step 2.  Become proficient with said rifle
Step 3.  Find animal
Step 4.  Shoot said animal in vitals
Step 5.  Eat animal

 

[Woodchuck]

He didn't state that the berger target had a thicker jacket than the smk's.  He said the target vld had a thicker jacket than the hunting vld

If the hunting vld has a thinner jacket, I would assume it would be closer to the SMK than the target vld

Careful. This is a discussion/debate between 2 engineers. This could get a little more nuts.

Are you sure about that? My standing as an engineer has already been questioned once in this thread by the other engineer... I'm not sure I count anymore. 

I deal with engineers every day. I wouldn't expect anything less.

You guys service trains there to? Wow, cool. 

[Curly]

  Awesome thread! 
 





 

[Dan-o]

On a more serious note, I think JD has a really valid point.

If a mfgr. Recommended against using their bullet on deer, I would not use it on deer.   

[Karl Blanchard]

On a more serious note, I think JD has a really valid point.

If a mfgr. Recommended against using their bullet on deer, I would not use it on deer.

  yes, but the simple fact is, they are very effective killers, and many, many hunters use them with great success.

[JDHasty]

On a more serious note, I think JD has a really valid point.

If a mfgr. Recommended against using their bullet on deer, I would not use it on deer.

  yes, but the simple fact is, they are very effective killers, and many, many hunters use them with great success.

And what is left out of the discussion above is that I never have said "don't use them."  What I have said to give due consideration to what the manufacturer has to say  -  and that implies, before making an ultimate decision.  Give due consideration is understanding where Sierra is coming from, benefiting from what research they have done and understanding the limitations of the SMK when used for this application if you do decide  to use them.       

[jackelope]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

[BULLBLASTER]

Right. There are lots of options for capable bullets. At the end of the day if you slam a piece of metal into flesh at 1800-3300 fps the flesh usually loses.  Shot placement has a huge affect on meat loss also. In my experience awesome dramatic bangflops are worse on meat than a double lung runner usually.

[Karl Blanchard]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

guy at the gun counter at Cabelas yesterday was telling me how crap accubonds were.  Core always seperating from jacket and such

[grundy53]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

guy at the gun counter at Cabelas yesterday was telling me how crap accubonds were.  Core always seperating from jacket and such

He obviously knows what he's talking about since he works at the Cabelas gun counter...

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[Karl Blanchard]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

guy at the gun counter at Cabelas yesterday was telling me how crap accubonds were.  Core always seperating from jacket and such

He obviously knows what he's talking about since he works at the Cabelas gun counter...

Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk

  I've come to the conclusion that it's more of a gun counter thing in general more than an exclusive cabelas thing

[BULLBLASTER]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

guy at the gun counter at Cabelas yesterday was telling me how crap accubonds were.  Core always seperating from jacket and such

He obviously knows what he's talking about since he works at the Cabelas gun counter...

Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk

  I've come to the conclusion that it's more of a gun counter thing in general more than an exclusive cabelas thing

Gun counters need to hire engineers!

[Karl Blanchard]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

guy at the gun counter at Cabelas yesterday was telling me how crap accubonds were.  Core always seperating from jacket and such

He obviously knows what he's talking about since he works at the Cabelas gun counter...

Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk

  I've come to the conclusion that it's more of a gun counter thing in general more than an exclusive cabelas thing

Gun counters need to hire engineers!

employee discount!  Good thinking

[BULLBLASTER]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

guy at the gun counter at Cabelas yesterday was telling me how crap accubonds were.  Core always seperating from jacket and such

He obviously knows what he's talking about since he works at the Cabelas gun counter...

Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk

  I've come to the conclusion that it's more of a gun counter thing in general more than an exclusive cabelas thing

Gun counters need to hire engineers!

employee discount!  Good thinking

Could be my night gig!