Washington wolf population continues to grow

[CAMPMEAT]

Projections mean nothing when it comes to money for the government. The government can lie all it wants, to make a projection. It just makes the public THINK they either made/saved money or not.

[nwwanderer]

Thanks Bearpaw, for your service local and beyond.  Wolves are more than a local, county, state, federal issue but locally we must be able to respond to local problems, the sheriffs should step in with county involvement helping with wolf problems, the state needs to stop throwing money away with wolf management schemes and the feds (the starting point for this issue) should acknowledge what is happening locally and understand this is a beyond our borders problem.  Since I am dreaming, the wolf needs the same status as a coyote or a feral dog.

Keep at it Bearpaw, you are not alone.

[bearpaw]

WDFW claim they first started seeing wolves "migrating" into WA in 2002, now 14 years later WDFW claim there are only 90 wolves. Compare the chart below at the 14 year mark with WDFW's claim.

http://www.saveelk.com/facts/

If I look at your chart for MT from 1985- 1998 then 90 seems to be right in line???
Looking at WY and Idaho they start tracking them in 1995 but there population is already above 75....

What am I missing?

Wolves were introduced into the Yellowstone and Idaho in 1995-96, By 2002, "7 years" later all three states were eligible for delisting, WA at 14 years later only has 90 wolves???

If we go back before 2002 when WDFW claim they started seeing the first wolves moving into WA,  how many wolves did WA already have?

In Washington, Feds Opt For Wolf Introduction Over Recovery  http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2010/06/08/in-washington-feds-opt-for-wolf-introduction-over-recovery/

Another bit of wolf trivia:

When this wolf recovery talk started the stated goal at that time was 100 wolves in each of three recovery states (MT, ID, WY). That was never the goal, it was only a lie/trick to get wolves started.

All three states exceeded that number and the number was raised, now there are more than 1900 wolves admitted in ID/MT/WY/WA/OR. In reality it could be double that number.

[Naches Sportsman]

Since this is back to the top, I am going to make a prediction that wdfw will classify at least one breeding pair in Yakima County by 2020.

[pianoman9701]

We knew this when they were in the planning stages of the wolf plan. This has never been about full disclosure.

[buglebrush]

It's been said, but I will say it again.   This is about eliminating OTC hunting.  WDFW makes no effort to manage predators effectively.  At least Idaho is making some effort to limit the damage.  Until wdfw takes on the predator issue I have zero respect and trust in them.   

[mfswallace]

Since this is back to the top, I am going to make a prediction that wdfw will classify at least one breeding pair in Yakima County by 2020.

Very Bold

They are there NOW!!!!

[JimmyHoffa]

It's been said, but I will say it again.   This is about eliminating OTC hunting.  WDFW makes no effort to manage predators effectively.  At least Idaho is making some effort to limit the damage.  Until wdfw takes on the predator issue I have zero respect and trust in them.

I would guess that in the lead up to going from OTC to permit, the wolves will lower the game density so much that the tree farms will see that they can make more money going to leases than individual permits.  Then leases will grow in size and only be able to support a small number of hunters.  So the wolves will drive the access problem even further.

[LeviD1]

I just read this wolf crap business! holy cow am I pissed now. 15 breeding pairs for 3 consecutive years! by the 3rd year there will be 25 breeding pairs that they even know of! We need a new wildlife commission. 

[Duckslayer89]

I'll be putting in for easy permits this year hoping I draw then never putting in for special permits again. Not going to support this crap anymore. It's the only way I can fight back really. I'm just too invested right now to never apply again, but after zeroing out my points that's it