New draw in Wa?

[WDFW-SUX]

My personal belief is that we are getting a max point pool..........What do the rest of you guys think?

"Several changes are proposed for the special permit application system. The proposed changes were developed during the public comment period for the 2009-11 Hunting Season Package; however programming changes to the drawing system could not be completed in time for the 2009 drawing. Therefore, these recommended changes will be implemented for the 2010 drawing. The proposed changes have received support from the public as well as Game Management Advisory Council members. These changes will generate funding to expand the hunter access program into priority areas of the state"

[colockumelk]

I think that our current point system is pointless.  I mean one point per year that means jack chit.  They should go to what Montana does which is mulitiples of 10.  If you don't get drawn this year then next year your name gets put into the hat ten times.  If somehow you still dont get drawn then next year your name goes in the hat 100 times etc.  It is rare over there for people not to get drawn at least every three years.  Except for in high draw areas like the Missouri Breaks.  Instead in WA we have people like me and my brother who are going on like year six and still havn't been drawn.  I bow hunt and put in for areas like Rimrock and Peaches Ridge were more than a hundred permits are put out.  Just one more reason to hate our WDFW. 

[WACATHUNTER]

I believe that our system does square the points, for example if you have 2 points you are getting 4 names in the hat.  I may be incorrect but that was my belief. 

I definitly don't want a max point draw system, I like the idea of always having a slight chance in hell.  My 2 cents.
WACAT

[HardCorpsHuntr]

I'd like to see 90% of permits go to max points and 10% to random.    

[bowhuntin]

I like the system the way it is now. Every year you have a chance to draw. I just hope they change the amount of choices an individual is allowed, that should help increase an individuals odds.

[GoldTip]

I'd like to see 90% of permits go to max points and 10% to random.    

I would like to see the application cost go to $50 or $75 for the OIL tags such as sheep, moose and goats.  Keep the $5 for the drawing fee and then refund the rest after the state has drawn interest on it for 3 months.   Works well and has for years in Montana.

[colockumelk]

I believe that our system does square the points, for example if you have 2 points you are getting 4 names in the hat.  I may be incorrect but that was my belief. 

I definitly don't want a max point draw system, I like the idea of always having a slight chance in hell.  My 2 cents.
WACAT

Yeah you're right cat it is a squared system.  I don't like the max point system either.  Like I said I like Montana's multiples of ten system.  That way when you get some points they actually mean something.  I put in every year and for what?  I never get drawn.  As much money as I spend every year on tags I deserve better than that and so does every one else.  Something needs to be done so that we're not going 10 years without getting drawn. 

[Gobble]

I like the system the way it is now. Every year you have a chance to draw. I just hope they change the amount of choices an individual is allowed, that should help increase an individuals odds.

+1

[Alan K]

I like it just fine the way it is now. 

And it's not because I've drawn a ton of tags either.  I've never been drawn for deer since I was putting in for youth tags, and never drawn an elk tag or any other tag for that matter ever.

I've put in for 9 years for premier bull tags and never been drawn, and that's because they are premier tags.  Want an easy draw? Put in for a cow tag.  It's the same way in every state. . . Premier tags take many years to draw.

[bowhuntin]

I think that our current point system is pointless.  I mean one point per year that means jack chit.  They should go to what Montana does which is mulitiples of 10.  If you don't get drawn this year then next year your name gets put into the hat ten times.  If somehow you still dont get drawn then next year your name goes in the hat 100 times etc.  It is rare over there for people not to get drawn at least every three years.  Except for in high draw areas like the Missouri Breaks.  Instead in WA we have people like me and my brother who are going on like year six and still havn't been drawn.  I bow hunt and put in for areas like Rimrock and Peaches Ridge were more than a hundred permits are put out.  Just one more reason to hate our WDFW. 

Do you put in for a group hunt or something? Those hunts you listed only take an average of three points. You should be due to be drawn if you have six points.

[bucklucky]

I dont want to see max point draws, but I wouldnt mind seeing a percentage goint to max point holders, thats fair. Id say maybee 50% to max point . I just want a chance to draw again 

[Skyvalhunter]

Draw what?

[Ridgerunner]

Guys we have the best draw system in the west, everyone has a shot each year, with the multiplier those who haven't drawn each year have an exponentially better chance of drawing.  If they tweak it then they should set aside like 25% of the tags to those that are over a certain number of points, i.e. 10.  My suspecion is that the top point pools are getting fewer and fewer each year, the guys that whine about never drawing are probably only putting in for premium tags.  Then of course you will always have guys who get lucky and draw premium tags with few points, but they are the exception not the rule.

[bucklucky]

Took me 12 points to draw my elk tag!

[NoBark]

I like our system. I don't like the Colorado max point system.
Utah is a mix and I think that is the direction it may be going.  I could go for a percent to max like some have suggested but I'd like to see no more that 10% to max holders.


Now it does talk about increased monies and a max point draw does nothing in that regard so perhaps the change will be more along the lines of people being able to 'buy' more points.  I sure hope not. It is already giving the rich more opportunity as it is and having guys 'buy' 5 or 10 points a year would be a