WOLVES SLAUGHTER 18 ELK IN ONE NIGHT ON WYOMING FEEDING GROUNDS. NONE ARE EATEN!

[pianoman9701]

It's impossible to kill every wolf humans have tried. I wish we could kill them all unfortunately it's impossible.  They are just like mosquitoes worthless disease carring devil creatures.

There are only 333 in Wyoming, it wouldn't be a problem at all to get them all in 1-2 seasons.  It has been done before with much less effective means than we have available now.

It was way more effective than now and they succeeded in wiping them out. Trapping and poisoning was much more effective and there's no way we'll be allowed to poison these days. Wolves will never disappear again.

[Stein]

It's impossible to kill every wolf humans have tried. I wish we could kill them all unfortunately it's impossible.  They are just like mosquitoes worthless disease carring devil creatures.

There are only 333 in Wyoming, it wouldn't be a problem at all to get them all in 1-2 seasons.  It has been done before with much less effective means than we have available now.

It was way more effective than now and they succeeded in wiping them out. Trapping and poisoning was much more effective and there's no way we'll be allowed to poison these days. Wolves will never disappear again.

I agree it won't happen, but it is very much possible to do so.

[bhawley76]

I am always open to feeding wolves, High caliber and High quantity. Sad even the biggest Subaru driving, granola eating, tree hugging wolf lovers of America will never see the impact they do to elk, deer and moose populations even when its thrown in there face with photos like these.

[jackmaster]

I was waiting for the...

"what do you expect?  This is what wolves do" comments.

I would've, but hadn't seen this thread yet. This is what wolves do. I guess I don't understand the point of this thread?   

Wolves will kill elk whether the wolves are "managed" or not. Does the fact that they sometimes kill more than they can eat mean that we should eliminate wolves entirely?

Is that the point of this thread?

yup, kill them all!  Plenty of them in Canada and Alaska, we don't need them in the lower 48.

[turbo]

Put poison on the damn dead elk and quit f------ around!!

[buckfvr]

You watch, one by one the herds will get protected as ending hunting is the single biggest event they can control to slow decline once it gets critical.  End hunting, take guns........All part of the plan.

[Magnum_Willys]

You watch, one by one the herds will get protected as ending hunting is the single biggest event they can control to slow decline once it gets critical.  End hunting, take guns........All part of the plan.

Yea they don't have to get rid of the hunters - just get rid of the game and hunters will disappear - wolves are the anti's new tool.............

[Duckslayer89]

Screw our liberal government agencies in charge, wolves need to die this makes my blood boil.

that is the bottom line!  Wolves need to die, and in large numbers!!!  SHoot and keep shooting, SS. 

Trophy how long do you think until wolves are running through the elk and deer herds in Kapowsin?

[trophyhunt]

Screw our liberal government agencies in charge, wolves need to die this makes my blood boil.

that is the bottom line!  Wolves need to die, and in large numbers!!!  SHoot and keep shooting, SS. 

Trophy how long do you think until wolves are running through the elk and deer herds in Kapowsin?

honestly, if they aren't there now it won't be long.  Scouting at crystal last year I talked with a gentleman that was on horses and spent the night at a lake by Norse peak, he saw a big wolf chasing two cows.  As the crow flies, that's not that far from the kapowsin area. 

[idahohuntr]

Its a big mistake for hunters to anthropomorphize predation of elk by wolves...talk population level impacts - not what a horrible tragedy it is for a pregnant cow elk to be killed...those who do are playing right into the anti's hands in perpetuating their message to non-hunters.

anthropomorphize-the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object

Really? As more people see the destruction that wolves are and have been causing the less wolves are liked, the same goes for state agencies like WDFW who lie and refuse to control wolves.

As far as the USFWS and WDFW's "environmental groups" lawyers who are doing their bidding, anything hunters etc. say means absolutely nothing in the process of wolf management/control. As many have already stated, wolf control will have to come from the public.

Your statement is totally ludicrous….

Since you are not a hunter I don't expect you to understand or care.  This strategy of anthropomorphizing wolf predation backfires on hunters - how do you sell this "evil wolf for killing a pregnant elk and ripping out its fetus" argument as bad/wrong/evil to non-hunting voters - but turn around and support something like late season cow tags - the shooting of a pregnant elk where the hunter most likely cuts open the elk and removes the fetus and leaves it in a pile of guts?

Hunters need to focus on population level impacts and general wildlife management at the population level -  not gory details of wolves being evil because they kill poor pregnant elk and rip out their fetus....that argument perpetuates the anti's strategy and all their Disney movie story lines.

[Duckslayer89]

Screw our liberal government agencies in charge, wolves need to die this makes my blood boil.

that is the bottom line!  Wolves need to die, and in large numbers!!!  SHoot and keep shooting, SS. 

Trophy how long do you think until wolves are running through the elk and deer herds in Kapowsin?

honestly, if they aren't there now it won't be long.  Scouting at crystal last year I talked with a gentleman that was on horses and spent the night at a lake by Norse peak, he saw a big wolf chasing two cows.  As the crow flies, that's not that far from the kapowsin area.

ya that's what I was thinking as well. I was up today and made it back in about 6 miles. Saw lots of fawns with does so that was a good sign. There's a new game escapement area off of the 62 road around the 6-7 mile mark on the left. LOADED with cat/coyote sign if anyone is looking for a predator spot. I'm all about taking predators out of there. There's cat sign every few steps it seems like

[wolfbait]

Its a big mistake for hunters to anthropomorphize predation of elk by wolves...talk population level impacts - not what a horrible tragedy it is for a pregnant cow elk to be killed...those who do are playing right into the anti's hands in perpetuating their message to non-hunters.

anthropomorphize-the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object

Really? As more people see the destruction that wolves are and have been causing the less wolves are liked, the same goes for state agencies like WDFW who lie and refuse to control wolves.

As far as the USFWS and WDFW's "environmental groups" lawyers who are doing their bidding, anything hunters etc. say means absolutely nothing in the process of wolf management/control. As many have already stated, wolf control will have to come from the public.

Your statement is totally ludicrous….

Since you are not a hunter I don't expect you to understand or care.  This strategy of anthropomorphizing wolf predation backfires on hunters - how do you sell this "evil wolf for killing a pregnant elk and ripping out its fetus" argument as bad/wrong/evil to non-hunting voters - but turn around and support something like late season cow tags - the shooting of a pregnant elk where the hunter most likely cuts open the elk and removes the fetus and leaves it in a pile of guts?

Hunters need to focus on population level impacts and general wildlife management at the population level -  not gory details of wolves being evil because they kill poor pregnant elk and rip out their fetus....that argument perpetuates the anti's strategy and all their Disney movie story lines.

Keep digging Idaho-h……….

The picture above and videos like is shown below, show a side of the wolf that the pro-wolf crowd don't like the public to see.

middle fork 0001

[Okanagan]

Its a big mistake for hunters to anthropomorphize predation of elk by wolves...talk population level impacts - not what a horrible tragedy it is for a pregnant cow elk to be killed...those who do are playing right into the anti's hands in perpetuating their message to non-hunters.

anthropomorphize-the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object

Really? As more people see the destruction that wolves are and have been causing the less wolves are liked, the same goes for state agencies like WDFW who lie and refuse to control wolves.

As far as the USFWS and WDFW's "environmental groups" lawyers who are doing their bidding, anything hunters etc. say means absolutely nothing in the process of wolf management/control. As many have already stated, wolf control will have to come from the public.

Your statement is totally ludicrous….

Since you are not a hunter I don't expect you to understand or care.  This strategy of anthropomorphizing wolf predation backfires on hunters - how do you sell this "evil wolf for killing a pregnant elk and ripping out its fetus" argument as bad/wrong/evil to non-hunting voters - but turn around and support something like late season cow tags - the shooting of a pregnant elk where the hunter most likely cuts open the elk and removes the fetus and leaves it in a pile of guts?

Hunters need to focus on population level impacts and general wildlife management at the population level -  not gory details of wolves being evil because they kill poor pregnant elk and rip out their fetus....that argument perpetuates the anti's strategy and all their Disney movie story lines.

Puzzling posts, importing some agenda from outside of this thread.  I read through the entire thread and haven't seen anyone anthropomorphizing wolf predation.  You seem to be accusing the wrong people at least so far on this thread.  Maybe I missed a line somewhere but it looks like you are the first and only one to use the moral word "evil" in connection with wolves.  I don't have to attribute human feelings nor morality to either elk or wolves to be disappointed that wolves killed that many elk in a short span of time. 

 

[Casey]

I heard they put a couple wolves in toutle. Also heard someone killed one and he went to take a picture. When he did they put something on it that can track your phone and he got busted.

[mfswallace]

Its a big mistake for hunters to anthropomorphize predation of elk by wolves...talk population level impacts - not what a horrible tragedy it is for a pregnant cow elk to be killed...those who do are playing right into the anti's hands in perpetuating their message to non-hunters.

anthropomorphize-the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object

Really? As more people see the destruction that wolves are and have been causing the less wolves are liked, the same goes for state agencies like WDFW who lie and refuse to control wolves.

As far as the USFWS and WDFW's "environmental groups" lawyers who are doing their bidding, anything hunters etc. say means absolutely nothing in the process of wolf management/control. As many have already stated, wolf control will have to come from the public.

Your statement is totally ludicrous….

Since you are not a hunter I don't expect you to understand or care.  This strategy of anthropomorphizing wolf predation backfires on hunters - how do you sell this "evil wolf for killing a pregnant elk and ripping out its fetus" argument as bad/wrong/evil to non-hunting voters - but turn around and support something like late season cow tags - the shooting of a pregnant elk where the hunter most likely cuts open the elk and removes the fetus and leaves it in a pile of guts?

Hunters need to focus on population level impacts and general wildlife management at the population level -  not gory details of wolves being evil because they kill poor pregnant elk and rip out their fetus....that argument perpetuates the anti's strategy and all their Disney movie story lines.

Puzzling posts, importing some agenda from outside of this thread.  I read through the entire thread and haven't seen anyone anthropomorphizing wolf predation.  You seem to be accusing the wrong people at least so far on this thread.  Maybe I missed a line somewhere but it looks like you are the first and only one to use the moral word "evil" in connection with wolves.  I don't have to attribute human feelings nor morality to either elk or wolves to be disappointed that wolves killed that many elk in a short span of time.

It's not worth pointing out the obvious with idahohunter or bobcat, they are pro-wdfwolf and just like to tell others its not really a problem that wolves decimate ungulates and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.