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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2016, 07:30:05 AM »
A friend from Montana emailed me and says the guy works at a high school as sports director.  I don't see how the District keeps him in that position if that is the case.

I'm sure they have rules on breaking the law and to which extent it's an issue of employment. Some schools also have ethics laws.

From the comments in this article:

"Are you freaking nuts Nate Strong poached that deer with the wrong tag and out of season. He should be hung. And fired from his Sublette county district #9 freaking job. I hope they nail him for a Lacey Act Violation."
http://sweetwaternow.com/105688-2/

Looks like the "natives are restless" - first they are calling to have him hung, and then after he is hung - fire him from his School District job.  So where is that going to leave the property owner who is threatening a civil law suit on top of all of everything else he is facing. 

Did you tell G&F that you found the body and where? I can only presume Hoback Ranches since that’s where he’s been living. I saw him on November 4th and 6th in there. Please private message us. We would like to proceed with a civil suit if we can prove he took it on private lands.

It's going to be pretty hard for them to sue him civilly for taking an animal that belonged to the state of Wyoming.  Unless their laws are markedly different, a private landowner can't seek civil restitution for the loss of an animal that belonged to the people of the state.

Trespass in which an animal was taken and the loss of that animal affects their ability to attract paying customers may well be.

They can have him cited for trespass certainly.  However, the animal does not belong specifically to them.  If I shot their prize Angus bull then they could sue me civilly.  They don't own the deer.  In order to show a monetary loss they would have to show that this impacted them financially.  It's not a game farm.

While the poached animal does not belong to the land owner, the opportunity to legally harvest that animal is/was.  And as we all know, people will pay an incredible amount of money to walk out in a field and shot a record book animal. 

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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2016, 08:09:38 AM »
A friend from Montana emailed me and says the guy works at a high school as sports director.  I don't see how the District keeps him in that position if that is the case.

I'm sure they have rules on breaking the law and to which extent it's an issue of employment. Some schools also have ethics laws.

From the comments in this article:

"Are you freaking nuts Nate Strong poached that deer with the wrong tag and out of season. He should be hung. And fired from his Sublette county district #9 freaking job. I hope they nail him for a Lacey Act Violation."
http://sweetwaternow.com/105688-2/

Looks like the "natives are restless" - first they are calling to have him hung, and then after he is hung - fire him from his School District job.  So where is that going to leave the property owner who is threatening a civil law suit on top of all of everything else he is facing. 

Did you tell G&F that you found the body and where? I can only presume Hoback Ranches since that’s where he’s been living. I saw him on November 4th and 6th in there. Please private message us. We would like to proceed with a civil suit if we can prove he took it on private lands.

It's going to be pretty hard for them to sue him civilly for taking an animal that belonged to the state of Wyoming.  Unless their laws are markedly different, a private landowner can't seek civil restitution for the loss of an animal that belonged to the people of the state.

Trespass in which an animal was taken and the loss of that animal affects their ability to attract paying customers may well be.

They can have him cited for trespass certainly.  However, the animal does not belong specifically to them.  If I shot their prize Angus bull then they could sue me civilly.  They don't own the deer.  In order to show a monetary loss they would have to show that this impacted them financially.  It's not a game farm.

While the poached animal does not belong to the land owner, the opportunity to legally harvest that animal is/was.  And as we all know, people will pay an incredible amount of money to walk out in a field and shot a record book animal.

That is where I thought tHat a civil case would come in.  What I have been told by Montana based relatives who run some cattle on Wyo range is that this ranch had a poaching incident a few years back that involved a well known outfitter and he thinks this is the angle they pursued. 
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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2016, 08:12:17 AM »
Nate Strong Poacher

This Sublette county school district PE teacher and coach in Big Piney Busted for Poaching 230" mule deer. He thought it was a Whitetail Hybrid. That's why he had it at the sports expo with his name on it labeled as a mule deer. If he is a member of this website he should be banned.

http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID6/26187.html
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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2016, 06:34:26 AM »
why ban him ? bash the puke.

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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2016, 12:46:34 PM »
http://www.pinedaleroundup.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=76&story_id=4547

Here is an excerpt:

This despicable act is a major injustice to the people of Wyoming. Possible gain of the mount if this individual could have gotten away with it? Maybe $30,000 to $40,000. Loss of “Big Boy” to us? Priceless! I would hope that justice is served and if convicted, he be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law – including possible prison time, loss of Wyoming hunting and fishing privileges for the rest of his life, and a major fine.

If convicted, I would also hope that the Big Piney School District would feel that it does not need this type of individual in their school district. Student look up to teachers and coaches and therefore should be taught good values and ethics. Is this the type of teacher we want educating our children?

http://www.subletteexaminer.com/v2_news_articles.php?page=72&story_id=4074

SUBLETTE COUNTY – Local hunters and residents are expressing anger, regret and dismay upon hearing a Big Piney man is charged with allegedly killing a handsome mule buck deer with unusual antlers.

Nathan Strong, of Big Piney, was charged last Tuesday with one criminal count of shooting an antlered deer without a license or during a closed season – in this case the very recognizable nontypical trophy mule deer buck nicknamed “Big Boy” who spent several summers


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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2016, 09:41:21 AM »

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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2016, 10:52:09 AM »
He knew what he had done was illegal and still wanted to enter this buck in a sportsman's show?@! What a moron! 

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Re: 230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2016, 03:18:37 PM »
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I would hope that justice is served and if convicted, he be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law – including possible prison time, loss of Wyoming hunting and fishing privileges for the rest of his life, and a major fine.

For single animals on a first time offense, I don't support prison sentences. Prison needs to be reserved for the most heinous people: child molesters.. murderers... liberals

 


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