Hmm, OK. Just seemed a little loose at 30 compared to my 20. Wanted to have all the details.
If going over for the youth hunt with Bearpaw I'd say I would be surprised if she will need to take more than a 30 yards shot. Dale is pretty good at getting those early hunters real close to some very nice birds. I pass up a lot of shots at 8 and 10 yards over there every year waiting for the birds to get into my wheelhouse. With the bow I prefer them 17-20 yards out and facing directly away. Seems every time I decide to shoot them at 8 yards I have to put a second arrow in them as they are running away. I practice at 8 yards, but bow sighting changes so rapidly with every yard that close. For a youth with a shotgun those 8-10 yard shots can be tough too. Pattern is pretty darn tight at that distance.
I would guess the pattern is about the size of your fist. that's why a lot of turkeys are missed at the distance. Shoot a pattern and see just how big it isn't
