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The AG believes there are legal issues with them holding money when it's fronted so that won't happen. In the next 3 year cycle, we are going to propose that you pick whether you would like to apply for an OIL species or deer/elk, much like Idaho. You would keep your points in every category but the odds will theoretically almost double although many people don't apply for OIL species and just deer/elk or vice versa. You would only have to choose what you would like to prioritize on what you are applying for. If you don't care about sheep but it's cheap and easy to apply so you do, you might likely keep applying for the Blues elk or coveted deer tag instead. Those that really want a sheep/goat/moose would have a higher chance of drawing.The only way to increase odds is to lower the applicant base. Period. No other system will work and make it "fair".
I may be a simpleton but how would building points in all categories but only applying for 1 change the odds? Across the board odds would remain the same correct? The goal is to lower the applicant base. If everyone was acquiring points across the board the applicant base would remain the same.Wouldn't this change necessitate allowing people to keep there points they have acquired so far but from here on limiting them to build points only in species they are applying for?
Quote from: X-Force on April 07, 2016, 01:38:56 PMI may be a simpleton but how would building points in all categories but only applying for 1 change the odds? Across the board odds would remain the same correct? The goal is to lower the applicant base. If everyone was acquiring points across the board the applicant base would remain the same.Wouldn't this change necessitate allowing people to keep there points they have acquired so far but from here on limiting them to build points only in species they are applying for?I personally say you should only accrue points in applied species. But either way would increase odds because there would be less names in the hat for everything. If I applied for deer and not moose. My name being out of the moose draw increases your odds.
There will be a point when people stop applying for special draws because they know that the percentage is so low, there is and never will be a chance to draw.
If the goal is to increase odds of drawing, building points in multiple categories is not helpful. Especially when it comes to the recruitment of new hunters.
Quote from: BULLBLASTER on April 07, 2016, 01:57:57 PMQuote from: X-Force on April 07, 2016, 01:38:56 PMI may be a simpleton but how would building points in all categories but only applying for 1 change the odds? Across the board odds would remain the same correct? The goal is to lower the applicant base. If everyone was acquiring points across the board the applicant base would remain the same.Wouldn't this change necessitate allowing people to keep there points they have acquired so far but from here on limiting them to build points only in species they are applying for?I personally say you should only accrue points in applied species. But either way would increase odds because there would be less names in the hat for everything. If I applied for deer and not moose. My name being out of the moose draw increases your odds.But the points you acquire would negate any increase in draw odds because people with high points would clog the top every time the moved from species to species and there wouldn't be any direct reduction in applicants to permit. Its like pressure. You have the same volume just going through a smaller hole.
but all those points are not in the draw in every year. My 14 moose points won't be in the moose draw while I apply for deer and elk. Besides as it is now the points in the oil categories are essentially meaningless anyhow. Bottom line less names in the hat = higher odds. Like I said I'd personally rather see only points accrued in active category for that year
Quote from: BULLBLASTER on April 07, 2016, 02:24:19 PMbut all those points are not in the draw in every year. My 14 moose points won't be in the moose draw while I apply for deer and elk. Besides as it is now the points in the oil categories are essentially meaningless anyhow. Bottom line less names in the hat = higher odds. Like I said I'd personally rather see only points accrued in active category for that yearI'm actually with you. I think that's the most fair system and would not mind seeing it set up that way at all. I'm just afraid that's a harder sell to both the hunters and to WDFW.