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Quote from: huntnphool on April 08, 2016, 10:29:28 PMQuote from: NW-GSP on April 08, 2016, 03:49:55 PMQuote from: huntnphool on April 08, 2016, 03:31:15 PMQuote from: NW-GSP on April 08, 2016, 03:24:55 PMQuote from: huntnphool on April 07, 2016, 11:44:30 PMQuote from: Sliverslinger on April 07, 2016, 11:15:26 PMNot advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue. In 2009, US Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13, and severely injured (immediately incapacitating) 30 more, in the Fort Hood "workplace violence" shooting.....all with a .22 caliber handgun. A big caliber handgun that you can not keep the muzzle on target with is not as effective as the one you can. That was a fnh five seven. That is completely different then a .22 long rifle The OP never specified "rimfire" or "long rifle", he said .22, which includes the FiveSeven and .22 Mag, yes they are completely different, but still .22 caliber. Was his intent the .22LR? Might as well as include 556 then also, that's a 22 cal bullet. That's the point, .22 caliber bullets are plenty leathal.No that is not the point. The velocity of a .22 lr and the velocity of a 555 are completely different along with the grain of the bullet. There is a reason why our military is using 556 instead of .22lr.
Quote from: NW-GSP on April 08, 2016, 03:49:55 PMQuote from: huntnphool on April 08, 2016, 03:31:15 PMQuote from: NW-GSP on April 08, 2016, 03:24:55 PMQuote from: huntnphool on April 07, 2016, 11:44:30 PMQuote from: Sliverslinger on April 07, 2016, 11:15:26 PMNot advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue. In 2009, US Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13, and severely injured (immediately incapacitating) 30 more, in the Fort Hood "workplace violence" shooting.....all with a .22 caliber handgun. A big caliber handgun that you can not keep the muzzle on target with is not as effective as the one you can. That was a fnh five seven. That is completely different then a .22 long rifle The OP never specified "rimfire" or "long rifle", he said .22, which includes the FiveSeven and .22 Mag, yes they are completely different, but still .22 caliber. Was his intent the .22LR? Might as well as include 556 then also, that's a 22 cal bullet. That's the point, .22 caliber bullets are plenty leathal.
Quote from: huntnphool on April 08, 2016, 03:31:15 PMQuote from: NW-GSP on April 08, 2016, 03:24:55 PMQuote from: huntnphool on April 07, 2016, 11:44:30 PMQuote from: Sliverslinger on April 07, 2016, 11:15:26 PMNot advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue. In 2009, US Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13, and severely injured (immediately incapacitating) 30 more, in the Fort Hood "workplace violence" shooting.....all with a .22 caliber handgun. A big caliber handgun that you can not keep the muzzle on target with is not as effective as the one you can. That was a fnh five seven. That is completely different then a .22 long rifle The OP never specified "rimfire" or "long rifle", he said .22, which includes the FiveSeven and .22 Mag, yes they are completely different, but still .22 caliber. Was his intent the .22LR? Might as well as include 556 then also, that's a 22 cal bullet.
Quote from: NW-GSP on April 08, 2016, 03:24:55 PMQuote from: huntnphool on April 07, 2016, 11:44:30 PMQuote from: Sliverslinger on April 07, 2016, 11:15:26 PMNot advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue. In 2009, US Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13, and severely injured (immediately incapacitating) 30 more, in the Fort Hood "workplace violence" shooting.....all with a .22 caliber handgun. A big caliber handgun that you can not keep the muzzle on target with is not as effective as the one you can. That was a fnh five seven. That is completely different then a .22 long rifle The OP never specified "rimfire" or "long rifle", he said .22, which includes the FiveSeven and .22 Mag, yes they are completely different, but still .22 caliber. Was his intent the .22LR?
Quote from: huntnphool on April 07, 2016, 11:44:30 PMQuote from: Sliverslinger on April 07, 2016, 11:15:26 PMNot advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue. In 2009, US Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13, and severely injured (immediately incapacitating) 30 more, in the Fort Hood "workplace violence" shooting.....all with a .22 caliber handgun. A big caliber handgun that you can not keep the muzzle on target with is not as effective as the one you can. That was a fnh five seven. That is completely different then a .22 long rifle
Quote from: Sliverslinger on April 07, 2016, 11:15:26 PMNot advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue. In 2009, US Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13, and severely injured (immediately incapacitating) 30 more, in the Fort Hood "workplace violence" shooting.....all with a .22 caliber handgun. A big caliber handgun that you can not keep the muzzle on target with is not as effective as the one you can.
Not advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue.
My Dad used to carry a 22 mag Derringer all the time.
How about a .204 at 4000 FPS.
Never mind. But that would be a cool pistol!
while you all are over there pee'ing I will be over here practicing with my 22. If'n you think it isnt lethal or got stopping power etc, whats say you come play human target and see how much you leak after I put 10 in your person times 3 I mean if 22 suck sooo much you should be lining up to play live target games its probably just like a paint ball gun right? if you 2 yr ol got ahold of one it ould be ok because they have no stopping power right? carry on with
Quote from: runamuk on April 09, 2016, 08:43:57 PMwhile you all are over there pee'ing I will be over here practicing with my 22. If'n you think it isnt lethal or got stopping power etc, whats say you come play human target and see how much you leak after I put 10 in your person times 3 I mean if 22 suck sooo much you should be lining up to play live target games its probably just like a paint ball gun right? if you 2 yr ol got ahold of one it ould be ok because they have no stopping power right? carry on with https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQThis officer shot the suspect multiple times with a .40 cal pistol and the officer still ended up dead and the suspect still was able to flee the scene. If this man is able to drive off after being hit multiple times with a .40 cal am I willing to trust a .22 lr to stop someone? NO!.
I dont really have anything to add to the conversation, i just want to get in on the pissing critter action.
