.22 for defense

[Bango skank]

Never noticed til now, but a couple seconds after his stream ends, he shakes it off.  Awesome. 

[runamuk]

Just reminds me, single is not so bad!

not bad at all I like being single so do the men I hang with   

[jasnt]

A 22 saved me from a cougar attack this winter. Glad I had it. Normally all I carry running my trap line

[runamuk]

A 22 saved me from a cougar attack this winter. Glad I had it. Normally all I carry running my trap line

that is not possible havent you been following along 

[JDHasty]

while you all are over there pee'ing I will be over here practicing with my 22.   If'n you think it isnt lethal or got stopping power etc, whats say you come play human target and see how much you leak after I put 10 in your person times 3    I mean if 22 suck sooo much you should be lining up to play live target games its probably just like a paint ball gun right?    if you 2 yr ol got ahold of one it ould be ok because they have no stopping power right?

 

carry on with 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQ

This officer shot the suspect multiple times with a .40 cal pistol and the officer still ended up dead and the suspect still was able to flee the scene. If this man is able to drive off after being hit multiple times with a .40 cal am I willing to trust a .22 lr to stop someone? NO!.

It does you no good if the attacker dies AFTER he presses home an attack.  No stopping power there.   

[quadrafire]

Tagging along. I've always thought a 22 lr would be a pretty dererent in many situations

[HighlandLofts]

A 22 saved me from a cougar attack this winter. Glad I had it. Normally all I carry running my trap line

 How old was the cougar? I see some really old ones with young guys in the bigger cities.
The one I remember the easiest is a guy about 25 all dolled up with a woman's hair cut with hair spray looked like, with a cougar about 75, old and wrinkly.

[2labs]

while you all are over there pee'ing I will be over here practicing with my 22.   If'n you think it isnt lethal or got stopping power etc, whats say you come play human target and see how much you leak after I put 10 in your person times 3    I mean if 22 suck sooo much you should be lining up to play live target games its probably just like a paint ball gun right?    if you 2 yr ol got ahold of one it ould be ok because they have no stopping power right?

 

carry on with 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQ

This officer shot the suspect multiple times with a .40 cal pistol and the officer still ended up dead and the suspect still was able to flee the scene. If this man is able to drive off after being hit multiple times with a .40 cal am I willing to trust a .22 lr to stop someone? NO!.

It does you no good if the attacker dies AFTER he presses home an attack.  No stopping power there.

This!

[JDHasty]

while you all are over there pee'ing I will be over here practicing with my 22.   If'n you think it isnt lethal or got stopping power etc, whats say you come play human target and see how much you leak after I put 10 in your person times 3    I mean if 22 suck sooo much you should be lining up to play live target games its probably just like a paint ball gun right?    if you 2 yr ol got ahold of one it ould be ok because they have no stopping power right?

 

carry on with 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQ

This officer shot the suspect multiple times with a .40 cal pistol and the officer still ended up dead and the suspect still was able to flee the scene. If this man is able to drive off after being hit multiple times with a .40 cal am I willing to trust a .22 lr to stop someone? NO!.

It does you no good if the attacker dies AFTER he presses home an attack.  No stopping power there.

This!

Yup.  Humans are pretty tough customers anyway, with a lot of tenacity for life.  There is a reason a person who is a threat is a threat in the first place and that implies you need stopping power. 

[grundy53]

Not advocating the .22 as a personal carry weapon, but in 1989 the DOJ determined it probably that more people had been killed by a .22 in the U.S. than any other caliber. So clearly it is lethal- just how immediately incapacitating is the issue.

 In 2009, US Army Major Nidal Hasan killed 13, and severely injured (immediately incapacitating) 30 more, in the Fort Hood "workplace violence" shooting.....all with a .22 caliber handgun.

 A big caliber handgun that you can not keep the muzzle on target with is not as effective as the one you can.

That was a fnh five seven. That is completely different then a .22 long rifle

 The OP never specified "rimfire" or "long rifle", he said .22, which includes the FiveSeven and .22 Mag, yes they are completely different, but still .22 caliber.

 Was his intent the .22LR? 

Don't forget the .22 TCM.

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[Mongo Hunter]

Lets all remember, handguns suck to begin with. The only reason we use them is because they are handy, small, light and easy to have with us all the time. So knowing that why limit yourself to the smallest possible caliber when there are so many good proven cartridges that are more reliable and been used by more professionals that frankly know more than most of us.

Don't get me wrong I have heard all kinds of stories about all kinds of calibers.

One was a detective that left his 1911 in his car, got jumped by a couple of thugs, the detective managed to get a round off out of his NAA .22lr revolver that he had as a backup. the round went under the rib and lodged in the bottom of the thugs heart. thug was arrested later at the hospital after he WALKED there. the attack was stopped by the gunshot but really he was able to walk there?

I've also heard/read multiple police repots of bad guys getting shot with anything from 9mm's to .45's and continue to fight until they pass out from blood loss.

So in general no handgun is a guarantee but that doesn't mean what caliber you carry shouldn't matter. Also the person that was comparing the size of the calibers we carry to how bad a$$ it makes us...grow up. for 50 years old you sound like a 3rd grader.

[Jellymon]

These are the MINIMUM anyone should be carrying.

[Squidward]

Growing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.

[Mongo Hunter]

Growing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.

The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill.

[huntnphool]

Growing up we raised cows. shot pretty much all of them dead, with a single round(not the same single round LOL) from a 22lr. I seen a deer on the run hit behind the last rib and die on the spot with a 22lr. It will KILL.

The question is not whether 22 will kill. a BB gun can kill. a pencil can kill. the question is whether or not a .22lr is adequate for self defense. in a self defense scenario your concern is STOPPING the attacker as quickly as possible (obviously he may die). 22lr is not adequate for self defense on the grounds its unreliable ammunition compared to center fire. we don't need to argue the grounds of effectiveness or its ability to kill.

 How about .22 center fire?