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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2016, 06:32:27 AM »
I see many news stories about hay bails, and confrontations on river road in our future
i have seen that done a time or two when I was but a young spike buck, what humors me is to get to the stuck river those fish have to come up the puke, and that run is supposedly on the verge of extinction and has been since I was in high school, so riddle me this? Why would the war hoops keep netting a river that seriously endangers a run of supposedly protected fish, I thought natives held fish and game as the highest honor, I mean they name themselves after the fish and animals. I know I got off topic, sorry fellas
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2016, 07:05:59 AM »
The tribes are so greedy it's time to take away all their special privileges. No more casinos and no more fishing and hunting rights.  Im sick of feeling like a lower class citizen. America is founded on equality not a caste system.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2016, 07:20:54 AM »
I think I might spend some time with signs boycotting the sale of the ones they net under the 66th Ave bridge on river road.  Of course they are not worried about profit.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2016, 07:56:22 AM »
Word on the street is the Tribes walked out of the last attempt at a meeting yesterday so all bets are off. Rumor is the tribes have plan to fast track their permit so they can fish this summer. The state is charting new territory so a permit for the Rec's may take months.  >:(

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2016, 08:03:01 AM »
The tribes will be fishing and the rest of us will not.  They will not target coho though. Lmao what a bunch of crap.
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2016, 09:40:10 AM »
What about the Commercial guys?

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2016, 09:48:00 AM »
Probably no fishing
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2016, 10:05:01 AM »
I think all anglers need to just boycott salmon fishn, I know fishn is in your guys blood it was in mine at one time, especially you guys with awesome fully equipped boats but the only way to win is to not play the game, wdfw needs money and even though the natives won't admit it but they need the sport fisherman as well, if all the sport guys banned together it would make a dfference.. As for commercial guys, sorry but I don't think there should be a commercial fishery in these parts. I believe that if people want fish to eat then go catch it or don't eat it. Treat it just like huntn , we can't commercial hunt deer or elk which is a good thing.. It makes me sick that if our resources were as important as wdfw and the natives say they are then why can't they come together for the common good of our resources?? GREED is why!!!
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2016, 10:16:28 AM »
They closed puget sound.
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2016, 10:53:41 AM »
WDFW stood up for sport fishermen in this mess.  There were 2 tribes that made ultimatums for no sportfishing in the Puyallup River and MA9,10,&11. The Puyallups and the Muckleshoots.
Yesterday WDFW met with them again and proposed a new fishing package for PS with a few more cuts to the Puyallup River fisheries.  Tribes said no way so in a nutshell WDFW ended the talks.
In the past, WDFW and the tribes negotiated seasons and the state tagged onto the tribe's federal fishing permit.  WDFW is applying for a seperate permit now.  Now this falls on NOAA-Fisheries to approve the permits.  There are a couple of people at NOAA that were pressuring WDFW to just take the deal and made statements to the effect that the states permit would take up to 8 months to approve.  At this point, it is all speculation and I believe these statements were made by the NOAA staff to induce WDFW to just take the *censored*ty deal (makes it easier on NOAA).
Kudos to WDFW for standing up for us and not bowing to 2 tribes ultimatum.
If you want to be pissed at someone, WDFW is not the proper target.  Be pissed at the Muckleshoots, Puyallups and NOAA for allowing the tribes to gillnet our salmon runs onto the ESA list.  Tribes have been exceeding thier 50% quota for years now with no penalty.
What can you do now?  Email and call our elected officials to pressure NOAA to A) fast track the states permit application and B) provide oversight and penalties to any parties that don't follow the rules and exceed quotas.
Join CCA and/or PSA if you haven't already.  These 2 groups are the main groups that are fighting for our rights as sportsfishers.  This link is a fast and easy way to email a pre-written letter to your elected officials.  Change it as you wish but please, please, please do this.  Only public pressure through our elected officials (many of which are up for re-election) will convince NOAA to change their policies.

https://www.votervoice.net/CCAPNW/Campaigns/46145/Respond?vvsn=BEnYDAGPACBRLAvybsO7BAA


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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2016, 11:25:57 AM »
WDFW stood up for sport fishermen in this mess.  There were 2 tribes that made ultimatums for no sportfishing in the Puyallup River and MA9,10,&11. The Puyallups and the Muckleshoots.
Yesterday WDFW met with them again and proposed a new fishing package for PS with a few more cuts to the Puyallup River fisheries.  Tribes said no way so in a nutshell WDFW ended the talks.
In the past, WDFW and the tribes negotiated seasons and the state tagged onto the tribe's federal fishing permit.  WDFW is applying for a seperate permit now.  Now this falls on NOAA-Fisheries to approve the permits.  There are a couple of people at NOAA that were pressuring WDFW to just take the deal and made statements to the effect that the states permit would take up to 8 months to approve.  At this point, it is all speculation and I believe these statements were made by the NOAA staff to induce WDFW to just take the *censored*ty deal (makes it easier on NOAA).
Kudos to WDFW for standing up for us and not bowing to 2 tribes ultimatum.
If you want to be pissed at someone, WDFW is not the proper target.  Be pissed at the Muckleshoots, Puyallups and NOAA for allowing the tribes to gillnet our salmon runs onto the ESA list.  Tribes have been exceeding thier 50% quota for years now with no penalty.
What can you do now?  Email and call our elected officials to pressure NOAA to A) fast track the states permit application and B) provide oversight and penalties to any parties that don't follow the rules and exceed quotas.
Join CCA and/or PSA if you haven't already.  These 2 groups are the main groups that are fighting for our rights as sportsfishers.  This link is a fast and easy way to email a pre-written letter to your elected officials.  Change it as you wish but please, please, please do this.  Only public pressure through our elected officials (many of which are up for re-election) will convince NOAA to change their policies.

https://www.votervoice.net/CCAPNW/Campaigns/46145/Respond?vvsn=BEnYDAGPACBRLAvybsO7BAA

Amen!  Also, those two groups were more actively throughout North of Falcon, including these last talks and putting pressure on all involved, than most here will ever know.  Lots of people fighting the good fight, including, in this case, WDFW and Director Unsworth.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2016, 03:07:07 PM »
So if the tribes get their permit and the state does not what is the coarse of action? Do we as sport fishers stand up and take a card from the enviro folks and sue NOAA for allowing gillnetting on rivers with esa protected salmon. They would have had to proform an EIS at one point I would think. We might be able to find a discrepancy in the EIS that would make it void and get a judge to put a hold on all fishing until it is fixed. That could put enough pressure on the tribes to be willing to work with WDFW.

On a side note stay strong WDFW! Now is the time to take a stand and save salmon fishing for future generations.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2016, 03:19:18 PM »
So if the tribes get their permit and the state does not what is the coarse of action? Do we as sport fishers stand up and take a card from the enviro folks and sue NOAA for allowing gillnetting on rivers with esa protected salmon. They would have had to proform an EIS at one point I would think. We might be able to find a discrepancy in the EIS that would make it void and get a judge to put a hold on all fishing until it is fixed. That could put enough pressure on the tribes to be willing to work with WDFW.

On a side note stay strong WDFW! Now is the time to take a stand and save salmon fishing for future generations.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2016, 03:44:39 PM »
So if PS salmon fishing is closed and the tribes are supposedly entitled to 50% of harvest and our harvest is 0% what are they getting 50% of? Who will be monitoring this quota? WDFW? Since we will not be on the water salmon fishing it should be easy enough for fish cops to focus on them.   :bash:    :bash:   

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #74 on: April 28, 2016, 03:50:52 PM »
Everyone get there money back. This is a bunch of BS the tribes don't care about the run.

 


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