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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #90 on: May 02, 2016, 08:57:13 AM »
sadly i could see this stuff coming more and more, since they've started closing rivers on certain days so the indians can net without "interference".

That has been done in order to secure agreement.  I would bet that won't be happening again unless they come to the table.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #91 on: May 02, 2016, 10:45:34 AM »
Maybe, just maybe - to make noise to the tribes...boycott their casinos....

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #92 on: May 02, 2016, 12:53:37 PM »
Im mostly ashamed that the wdfw cand find some common ground that would help both tribes and the state. The state could go to bat with the conferderation of tribes in w wa for opening up and indian only harvest on sealions cornmerant or other salmon killers. The wdfw and tribes could jointly pettion the feds to have a seperat duck baglimit for mergansers. When 2 parties lack trust, Working on common ground despite difficult barriers helps earn that trust back. There is a good reason why the sportsmen and tribes dont trust the wdfw. Its because they have lied to both of us.
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #93 on: May 02, 2016, 01:02:15 PM »
It's a shame that the no nets initiative failed years ago.  If I remember right it would have banned nets from all rivers and puget sound.  I think it likely was defeated in large part because it would not affect natives, but it sure seems like if non-native commercial nets were banned, that would help give leverage for dealing with tribal netting. 

Then the damned sealions are sitting below Bonneville dam just feasting on salmon, steelhead and sturgeon.  It's stupid not to shoot at least half of them.  :archery_smiley:
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #94 on: May 02, 2016, 01:33:01 PM »
Imagine how the tribes felt as we began our take over many decades back. Funny that we are in their shoes now. Oh well

 :yeah: Things do have a way of becoming full circle. The tribes are now using white man's way to gain back power and live again. Can't blaim em :dunno: Maybe all of us of European decent need to go back where we came from? Might be easier than fighting them all over again :dunno:
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #95 on: May 02, 2016, 01:55:17 PM »
Imagine how the tribes felt as we began our take over many decades back. Funny that we are in their shoes now. Oh well

 :yeah: Things do have a way of becoming full circle. The tribes are now using white man's way to gain back power and live again. Can't blaim em :dunno: Maybe all of us of European decent need to go back where we came from? Might be easier than fighting them all over again :dunno:
And then they can go back to earlier inhabitant claims.  And then those back to even earlier.  Maybe the first tribes that crossed the Bering Strait eventually go back to Siberia.  Then everybody, everywhere just goes back to sub-Saharan Africa.  :dunno:

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #96 on: May 02, 2016, 02:00:23 PM »
Show up at the rivers and fish anyway..  how many tribal cops and WDFW are there??  Get the usual fence lines of people in the river and boats floating, one big middle finger to the whole thing....

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #97 on: May 03, 2016, 06:12:59 PM »
Oh boy.  Now it gets exciting.

This just in from the CCA.

We need you to support our RALLY FOR FISHERIES EQUALITY this Thursday, May 5, in Lacey starting at 11:30AM! We will be meeting at NOAA’s office, located at 510 Desmond Drive SE in Lacey.
 
This year’s salmon season setting process fell apart when WDFW and the Puget Sound treaty tribes failed to reach agreement. As a result, we were told that neither group would be allowed to fish until either an agreement was in place or a federal permit was issued by NOAA. To date, neither of those have happened and yet the treaty tribes are commencing commercial gillnet fisheries that impact endangered salmon populations.

At the same time, all Puget Sound recreational salmon fisheries - including fisheries in Lake Washington and Lake Sammamish - are shut down with no sign that federal officials plan to take action. This is a slap in the face to the nearly quarter million recreational anglers who make Puget Sound sport fisheries a $100+ million industry! It is uncertain if NOAA will allow any non-tribal fisheries this year. We need you to help us put pressure on NOAA to approve non-tribal fisheries and restore balance to Puget Sound salmon management.
 
This is your chance to show up and let our federal fisheries managers know how you feel. We need your help to:
Restore fairness and equality in harvest sharing – consistent with the Boldt Decision;
Provide transparency to a broken co-management process;
Hold our federal government accountable for properly managing our fisheries;
Continue our role as leaders in common sense conservation of our marine resources.

Please show up and let your voice be heard! Make sure any signs or statements are positive and respectful – key messages include fairness, transparency, and cooperation – hallmarks of the rule of law and co-management.
 
What: RALLY FOR FISHERIES EQUALITY
When: Thursday, May 5, at 11:30 AM
Where: NOAA’s Lacey office (510 Desmond Dr SE)
 
CCA Washington also joined a coalition of recreational anglers in sending a letter to Governor Inslee and our Congressional delegation urging them to engage in the issue. 
 
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #98 on: May 04, 2016, 07:09:56 AM »
The rally is a good start. I can't get out of work.

Puget Sound Anglers has a "Voter Voice" that goes out to multiple elected officials.
https://www.votervoice.net/PSA/campaigns/46262/respond

It's something. The "stand back and let our managers take care of it" approach is clearly not working.
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #99 on: May 04, 2016, 07:49:48 AM »
See you there.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2016, 10:15:15 AM »
Let's say, just for fun, that I didn't get the email about Sammamish, Washington, etc. being closed. Someone show me where I can go on the WDFW site to find an emergency rule change.
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #101 on: May 04, 2016, 10:19:13 AM »
Let's say, just for fun, that I didn't get the email about Sammamish, Washington, etc. being closed. Someone show me where I can go on the WDFW site to find an emergency rule change.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/pugetsound_salmon_update/

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #102 on: May 04, 2016, 10:20:14 AM »
Let's say, just for fun, that I didn't get the email about Sammamish, Washington, etc. being closed. Someone show me where I can go on the WDFW site to find an emergency rule change.

OK, now I see the notice on the home page, but it's funny that if you go to emergency rules for freshwater, or check the individual lakes, they specifically say no emergency rules are in place. looks like a get out of jail free card to me.
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2016, 12:04:21 PM »
Perhaps the wdfw is using the tactics that ribes have. Wasnt it the tulalip game head that was caught selling crab taken illegally? Nothing ever came of that. Perhaps the wdfw should have a work slow down and not go looking for people in the closed lakes. A little tit for tat.
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