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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 07:31:58 PM »
I always thought a switch barrel rifle witha .270 or 25-06 barrel for deer and lope and a 338-06 barrel for elk. That would be cool.

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2009, 04:43:51 PM »
I always thought a switch barrel rifle witha .270 or 25-06 barrel for deer and lope and a 338-06 barrel for elk. That would be cool.

I have one. Savage Model 111 have  .270 , .280, 30-06 & 338-06 barrels for it . The .338-06 is my favorite. With 180gr & .225 gr. bullets. The 180s in a 338-06 are faster than 180s in 30-06. And a little flatter shooting out to 300 yrds.
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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2009, 08:00:59 PM »
Not trying to stir anything up at, but I have to agree with why shoot a 180/338.  Who and what load is getting 3200fps from a 338WM with a 180gr?  Penetration wise you would be better off with a 180/308 at equal velocity.  You have to compare calibers that are similar to make a fair evaluation.  Personally I would go with the 300WM for a one gun type rifle.  Nothing wrong with the 338, but the 300WM is much more versitile in what can be shot out of it.  I think the 338 caliber is a great caliber and the 210-225's are awesome. 

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2009, 08:28:33 PM »
With the 180gr nosler and 75gr's of 4350 its 3260fps and with 73gr's of 4350 its 3168. My gun seems to like near max loads for grouping :dunno:

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2009, 09:12:51 PM »
A 180 in 338 caliber has got to have a really low B.C.  So although it may start out at a relatively high velocity, it will also slow down much faster than a longer, heavier bullet that has a higher B.C. You should compare trajectory charts for the 180 grain and a heavier bullet like a 210 in the same style bullet. The heavier bullet will start out slower but at longer ranges it will probably overtake the lighter bullet. Wind drift will also be less with the heavier bullet.

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2009, 10:12:02 PM »
.372 for the 180gr, .414 for the 200gr, and .550 for the 225gr.

The 180gr is flatter to 800yd's then the 200 and 900yd's for the  225gr. The wind drift, energy, and speed are where the longer bullets have the edge and longer ranges.

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2009, 10:12:22 AM »
DT...I don't know about your figures because you are not listing velocity with each bullet.  Please provide the data you are using.  I ran numbers off from what I have known chronographed velocity for, and they don't come anywhere close to what you have.  I'm not saying my numbers are correct, but we have to have numbers to compare to.

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2009, 11:11:45 AM »
Check the ballistics on these:
180 gr. - .338 cal - BC .372 - V=3,180 fps
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180 gr. - .308 cal - BC .507 - V=3,100 fps

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225 gr - .338 cal - BC 0.55 - V=2,800 fps

Which one do you like the ballistics better?  Those are published BC's for Nosler Accubond and approx. velocities for .338 Win Mag or .300 Win mag.
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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2009, 11:28:07 AM »
3200 for the 180, 3090 for the 200 and 2800 for the 225.

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2009, 09:35:48 PM »
Ok  here is what I came up when I ran it through the Oehler.  I used velocity that I know is attainable, but that does not matter as long as the same variation is used.  The WM either in 338 (smaller case capacity) or 300 are very similar in velocity potential.  The efficiency possibility of the 338 case would only keep it even with the greater capacity of the 300 not surpass it by 200 fps.  The zero range and any other adjustable variable is also irrelevant as long as all have the same variables.  Everything is in inches and I did not add yards after the initial list.  What say you now?!  (that was a joke) 

308 - 180 BT @ 3000fps
300yd zero
100 = +3.6
200 + +4.4
300 = 0.0
400 = -10.3
500 = -27.0
600 = -51.4
700 = -84.6
800 = -128.3
900 = 183.9
1000 = 253.8

338 180 BT @ 3000fps
+4.0
+4.9
0.0
-11.5
-31.2
-60.8
-103.0
-160.3
-235.8
-332.7

338 225 Part @2700fps
+5.0
+5.7
0.0
-13.3
-35.7
-68.7
-114.4
-175.1
-253.0
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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2009, 09:06:01 AM »
I was never comparing the 300 to the 338 in the ballistics I put up just the different .338 bullets. And with my experiance shooting the 300 with a 180 and a 338 with the 180 the 338 kicks less and is more the flat enough for me at the ranges I shot.
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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2009, 09:32:57 AM »
DT....hey not being a jerk/prick at all.  I never once said anything negative about anybody or what their experience has been.  I thought this was just a discussion about a guy wanting to know about a 338 and a 300 to help him make a choice.  Maybe I was wronng in just putting the information I have out for others to consider.  Then later on Curly asked for some specific information and I posted it.  I qualified the joke portion I thought because I intended nothing by it.   

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2009, 11:36:20 AM »
I though the last part said something else my bad I was reading quickly, Sorry.

A 300win has great ballistics but I still like my .338 better then the .300win I had.  :dunno:

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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2009, 12:09:52 PM »
In my experience, the .338 with a 210 gr. bullet will flat out perform.  It seems the perfect bullet for that caliber.  Shoots flat, lots of energy, and accurate as heck.
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Re: .338 who is happy with it
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2009, 07:05:45 PM »
Thank you everyone I now know not to ask for rifle advise on this site because I am now dumber for reading this entire thread.
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