Duckhunter, Don't take what I said personally it wasn't meant that way. I have no idea if the bulls in that other thread are still around as I don't go to Oak Creek. Just know that generally when a big bull makes it all over the internet it doesn't take long and he has a big bulls eye on his side. I've watched it happen on here twice and both of them ended up being poached. To each is own on posting some pics, didn't mean to hurt someone's feelings.