Weyerhaeuser Tree Farm Trapping

[Bigshooter]

I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas.  I believe that in the past that you could.  I sent them an email telling them how unhappy I was about this.  If you are unhappy about this please send an email to Weyerhaesuer and let them know.  Here is a link to all of the different areas emails.  https://www.wyrecreationnw.com/ContactUs.aspx

Maybe the WSTA should contact Weyerhaeuser and find out why they are not allowing trapping.

[ouchfoss]

Wow!  That sucks big time. I don't know much about that area but is it a leased or gate entry fee zone? Is this a way for Weyerhauser to make more money in the future with trapping specific leases?  I don't really like the path that our access and rules regarding the outdoors is headed down. Seems every year a few more things are taken away or restricted.

[jasnt]

Wow!  That sucks big time. I don't know much about that area but is it a leased or gate entry fee zone? Is this a way for Weyerhauser to make more money in the future with trapping specific leases?  I don't really like the path that our access and rules regarding the outdoors is headed down. Seems every year a few more things are taken away or restricted.

 

[kenbell27]

I am not sure about St. Helens but Weyerhaeuser has a trapper that is contracted for Vail. His name is Billy. His son does the bear control in Vail also.

[ouchfoss]

I am not sure about St. Helens but Weyerhaeuser has a trapper that is contracted for Vail. His name is Billy. His son does the bear control in Vail also.

That makes sense. Job security. Still sucks though.

[Bigshooter]

Here is the reply I got back from Weyerhaeuser:

"Beginning April 2016, Weyerhaeuser has committed up to 3 million acres of private timberland in Washington and Oregon to support a variety of conservation efforts focused on reintroducing the North American Fisher (Fisher) throughout the West.  For this reason, no trapping is currently allowed.
Thank you,"

[Bigshooter]

I still would like to see the WSTA contact Weyerhaeuser about this.

[Machias]

Makes NO sense, you can only use cage traps, so all fisher could be released.

[jasnt]

Just about every one in this state I've talked to has no clue we can only use cage traps.

[Humptulips]

I'll just say I am trying to do something but have nothing to report yet.

[Humptulips]

I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas. I believe that in the past that you could.  I sent them an email telling them how unhappy I was about this.  If you are unhappy about this please send an email to Weyerhaesuer and let them know.  Here is a link to all of the different areas emails.  https://www.wyrecreationnw.com/ContactUs.aspx

Maybe the WSTA should contact Weyerhaeuser and find out why they are not allowing trapping.

What is it that makes you unhappy, the fact that you can't do something you didn't do before, or the fact that you now know you can't do something that you never actually did?

Do you have any actual information or are you just trying to stir the pot?
Trappers have been trapping on WEYCO lands since before they were WEYCO with WEYCOs blessings.

[fireweed]

What about beaver?   Seems with culverts plugging up that anyone willing or able to trap beaver would be welcome.  They sure would be on my timberland. 

[Machias]

Macs B can you explain how you think this is a legit reason?  Since they are already required to use cage traps, continued trapping would have ZERO impact on any returning Fisher.

[Machias]

Discussing it, voicing an opinion or making folks aware of a policy change is not being butt hurt.  + There are a hell of a lot more activities going on that will have a greater impact on fisher when compared to cage trapping. 

[muzbuster]

This seems like a perfectly legitimate reason to not allow trapping:

"Beginning April 2016, Weyerhaeuser has committed up to 3 million acres of private timberland in Washington and Oregon to support a variety of conservation efforts focused on reintroducing the North American Fisher (Fisher) throughout the West.  For this reason, no trapping is currently allowed.
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No it isn't, because you can only use live traps, if a Fisher should happen to get in a trap all that needs to be done is open the trap and let it go, no harm done.

[Humptulips]

I still have not heard from WEYCO on this. Waiting for reply from someone who can do something but I have talked with WDFW and the were unaware of this. I was told they would weigh in on our behalf.
For Macs B. The fisher recovery team at WDFW actually want us catching fisher. WSTA is a participating partner in the fisher recovery program. The way we can help is by catching documenting and releasing fisher. It is one way the fisher recovery program can see where and what type habitat fishers are using plus we get a visual inspection of an animal to gauge how healthy they are. If things go right we can also get DNA samples for the department.

[Bigshooter]

Macs, I'm not sure what is so funny.  Per permit you could trap on their land.  Now they charge for access and don't allow trapping.  I don't see where that is funny.  Maybe it's a European thing?

[Bigshooter]

I'm an actual trapper.  And now I can't trap on weyerhaeuser land.  Is it still funny?

[Bigshooter]

Wasn't this you about six hours ago?  "I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas.  I believe that in the past that you could. "

Doesn't sound like you've actually done much actual trapping on Vail or St Helens property or you would have known if you could have in the past.  The FUNNY part is that you want to stir up a big forum argument over something that you obviously don't do.  I call that not having any skin in the game.  That's why you won't find me complaining about changes in ATV usage, because I don't run an ATV.  Same way with talk about increasing road taxes on electric cars, doesn't apply to me.

I trapped vail 2 years ago and St Helens last year.  The last two years the agreement you had to sign off on didn't say if you could trap or not, but i did anyway.  But this year it does say you can't.  Is it still funny?

[Bigshooter]

I still have not heard from WEYCO on this. Waiting for reply from someone who can do something but I have talked with WDFW and the were unaware of this. I was told they would weigh in on our behalf.
For Macs B. The fisher recovery team at WDFW actually want us catching fisher. WSTA is a participating partner in the fisher recovery program. The way we can help is by catching documenting and releasing fisher. It is one way the fisher recovery program can see where and what type habitat fishers are using plus we get a visual inspection of an animal to gauge how healthy they are. If things go right we can also get DNA samples for the department.

Thanks Bruce.

[jasnt]

I would think trapping will help the fisher.  Not only would the trapper be taking the fisher's competition for food but also the few fisher that could be caught would not only be released unharmed and after a free meal but also provide valuable info about the fisher and population growth. 

[Skunk Trapper]

Who's this Macs B guy....Calling people out for not trapping on certain lands....mentioning ATVs, electric vehicle taxes...and hang gliding off the space needle?

Mr "skin in the game"....

[Humptulips]

Wasn't this you about six hours ago?  "I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas.  I believe that in the past that you could. "

Doesn't sound like you've actually done much actual trapping on Vail or St Helens property or you would have known if you could have in the past.  The FUNNY part is that you want to stir up a big forum argument over something that you obviously don't do.  I call that not having any skin in the game.  That's why you won't find me complaining about changes in ATV usage, because I don't run an ATV.  Same way with talk about increasing road taxes on electric cars, doesn't apply to me.

Ever heard the phrase "An injury to one is an injury to all"

[jasnt]

Wasn't this you about six hours ago?  "I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas.  I believe that in the past that you could. "

Doesn't sound like you've actually done much actual trapping on Vail or St Helens property or you would have known if you could have in the past.  The FUNNY part is that you want to stir up a big forum argument over something that you obviously don't do.  I call that not having any skin in the game.  That's why you won't find me complaining about changes in ATV usage, because I don't run an ATV.  Same way with talk about increasing road taxes on electric cars, doesn't apply to me.

Ever heard the phrase "An injury to one is an injury to all"

yup if it affects one trapper it affects us all. We've lost too much to stand by and lose one more right, one more right, one more place to trap.  You should be standing with use as next week it could be your skin in the game

[Skunk Trapper]

You tell em Jasen  This clown probably wears a possum fur loin cloth