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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2016, 10:07:15 PM »
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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2016, 05:43:00 AM »
Pretty sure that would go over like a ton of bricks!

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2016, 06:52:53 AM »
We went out on a salmon charter a few years ago and the deckhand worked his butt off!  We were on fish the whole time and he did a great job keeping everyone baited up, he got a little offended if we touched the bait lol.  We ended up tipping him $40 a piece and he had everything fileted and in bags by the time we got to the dock. 
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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2016, 07:02:19 AM »
Pretty sure that would go over like a ton of bricks!

Why? Its legal, just like alcohol and they let you drink all you want on the boat. To the point that half most charter boat clients are drunk or heavily buzzed by the time they hit the dock. Hoestly drunks piss me off far worse than stoners. Drunks are loud, ego filled, unfiltered *censored*s that arent affraid to fight 90% of the time. Stoners are happy, hungry, and sleepy. They have almost zero amount of drive to want to pick a fight. They would rather tell jokes, laugh, and possibly find a package of oreo's and milk.

How many men have you ever heard of smoking a joint and going home and beating their wives? NONE alcohol? Too many to count

How many fatal DUIs are cause by alcohol vs green every year? The numbers are all there alcohol takes many more lives in vehicle deaths per year by a landslide.

How often do you hear of a raging stoner causing problems in public? LOL never they want a cheeseburger and a slurpee oh and maybe a good spot to sut down and chill for a bit.

Funny how facts are often overlooked and swept under the rug in favor of political stand points like smoking green vs drinking. Drinking is far more dangerous both physically and mentally to your body but no one wants to say that out loud bc we accept alcohol as a part of our culture.

Fun fact of the day: George Washington: The father of our country kept meticulous diaries, wherein he noted “Sowed hemp at muddy hole by swamp” away from the hemp he grew for fiber. “Began to separate the male from female plants at do [sic --rather too late” and “Pulling up the (male) hemp. Was too late for the blossom hemp by three weeks or a month” indicates he was going for female plants with higher THC content. There is also indication he used hemp preparations to deal with his toothaches.

Even our founding fathers grew and used cannabis and hemp products regularly. It wasnt until the early to mid 1900s that our goverment filled our ears with false propaganda and began prohibition on this plant. It wasnt until then that our views as the public began to change.

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2016, 07:11:36 AM »
I think I gave my last deck hand 40.00 I gave 20.00 for fileting the fish and 20.00 tip.
:yeah:

If the deck hand is worth their salt they will have all of the fish done before the boat returns to harbor, clean filets bagged on ice ready to take home, and then they will still have to stay behind and finish cleaning the boat. All the ones I have had only received tips and no compensation from the boat. If you become a repeat customer with the same deck hand they are apt to remember who you are and treat you well.  :twocents:

I've never quite figured out the "no compensation from the boat" idea... in what other industries do we enforce a busker ideology to get ahead.  No captain can get a boat without being a deckhand and yet you live like a pauper or worse work for a captain that doesn't get on fish....

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 07:14:32 AM »
Pretty sure that would go over like a ton of bricks!

Why? Its legal, just like alcohol and they let you drink all you want on the boat. To the point that half most charter boat clients are drunk or heavily buzzed by the time they hit the dock. Hoestly drunks piss me off far worse than stoners. Drunks are loud, ego filled, unfiltered *censored*s that arent affraid to fight 90% of the time. Stoners are happy, hungry, and sleepy. They have almost zero amount of drive to want to pick a fight. They would rather tell jokes, laugh, and possibly find a package of oreo's and milk.

How many men have you ever heard of smoking a joint and going home and beating their wives? NONE alcohol? Too many to count

How many fatal DUIs are cause by alcohol vs green every year? The numbers are all there alcohol takes many more lives in vehicle deaths per year by a landslide.

How often do you hear of a raging stoner causing problems in public? LOL never they want a cheeseburger and a slurpee oh and maybe a good spot to sut down and chill for a bit.

Funny how facts are often overlooked and swept under the rug in favor of political stand points like smoking green vs drinking. Drinking is far more dangerous both physically and mentally to your body but no one wants to say that out loud bc we accept alcohol as a part of our culture.

Fun fact of the day: George Washington: The father of our country kept meticulous diaries, wherein he noted “Sowed hemp at muddy hole by swamp” away from the hemp he grew for fiber. “Began to separate the male from female plants at do [sic --rather too late” and “Pulling up the (male) hemp. Was too late for the blossom hemp by three weeks or a month” indicates he was going for female plants with higher THC content. There is also indication he used hemp preparations to deal with his toothaches.

Even our founding fathers grew and used cannabis and hemp products regularly. It wasnt until the early to mid 1900s that our goverment filled our ears with false propaganda and began prohibition on this plant. It wasnt until then that our views as the public began to change.
Easy killer! Not all charters allow drinking. I would strongly recommend you check with the charter operator prior to lighting up. Plus the oceans are patrolled by the coast guard which operates under federal law not state law.

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 07:16:39 AM »
On the 15th I'm going on my first charter bottom fishing on the freedom out of westport....what do you guys think is a fair tip and do you tip the captain or just the deckhands?

You picked a great boat, captain and deckhand.  We go with them every year on Mother's Day weekend.  They'll straight get you on the fish!

The general rule for tipping the deckhand is 10%.  Maybe a little more or a little less

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 07:20:51 AM »
You should have a great time, good luck! :tup:
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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 07:22:19 AM »
Pretty sure that would go over like a ton of bricks!

Why? Its legal, just like alcohol and they let you drink all you want on the boat. To the point that half most charter boat clients are drunk or heavily buzzed by the time they hit the dock. Hoestly drunks piss me off far worse than stoners. Drunks are loud, ego filled, unfiltered *censored*s that arent affraid to fight 90% of the time. Stoners are happy, hungry, and sleepy. They have almost zero amount of drive to want to pick a fight. They would rather tell jokes, laugh, and possibly find a package of oreo's and milk.

How many men have you ever heard of smoking a joint and going home and beating their wives? NONE alcohol? Too many to count

How many fatal DUIs are cause by alcohol vs green every year? The numbers are all there alcohol takes many more lives in vehicle deaths per year by a landslide.

How often do you hear of a raging stoner causing problems in public? LOL never they want a cheeseburger and a slurpee oh and maybe a good spot to sut down and chill for a bit.

Funny how facts are often overlooked and swept under the rug in favor of political stand points like smoking green vs drinking. Drinking is far more dangerous both physically and mentally to your body but no one wants to say that out loud bc we accept alcohol as a part of our culture.

Fun fact of the day: George Washington: The father of our country kept meticulous diaries, wherein he noted “Sowed hemp at muddy hole by swamp” away from the hemp he grew for fiber. “Began to separate the male from female plants at do [sic --rather too late” and “Pulling up the (male) hemp. Was too late for the blossom hemp by three weeks or a month” indicates he was going for female plants with higher THC content. There is also indication he used hemp preparations to deal with his toothaches.

Even our founding fathers grew and used cannabis and hemp products regularly. It wasnt until the early to mid 1900s that our goverment filled our ears with false propaganda and began prohibition on this plant. It wasnt until then that our views as the public began to change.
Easy killer! Not all charters allow drinking. I would strongly recommend you check with the charter operator prior to lighting up. Plus the oceans are patrolled by the coast guard which operates under federal law not state law.

The charters ive been on certainly allow drinking. I dont light up on charters for the same reason i dont drink on them. Respect of the people around me. I simply think that the boats that allow you to drink, should without question allow you to smoke. Do washingtiin state laws change on a boat? Its obvious that the captain and crew have to be clean but does that pertain to the clients as well? So if i smoked before i got on the boat and tested positive for THC while i was on the charter would i get a ticket? I dont think thats right. Im pretty sure if youre not running the boat you can smoke, bc it is legal under wa state law

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2016, 07:31:10 AM »
Pretty sure that would go over like a ton of bricks!

Why? Its legal, just like alcohol and they let you drink all you want on the boat. To the point that half most charter boat clients are drunk or heavily buzzed by the time they hit the dock. Hoestly drunks piss me off far worse than stoners. Drunks are loud, ego filled, unfiltered *censored*s that arent affraid to fight 90% of the time. Stoners are happy, hungry, and sleepy. They have almost zero amount of drive to want to pick a fight. They would rather tell jokes, laugh, and possibly find a package of oreo's and milk.

How many men have you ever heard of smoking a joint and going home and beating their wives? NONE alcohol? Too many to count

How many fatal DUIs are cause by alcohol vs green every year? The numbers are all there alcohol takes many more lives in vehicle deaths per year by a landslide.

How often do you hear of a raging stoner causing problems in public? LOL never they want a cheeseburger and a slurpee oh and maybe a good spot to sut down and chill for a bit.

Funny how facts are often overlooked and swept under the rug in favor of political stand points like smoking green vs drinking. Drinking is far more dangerous both physically and mentally to your body but no one wants to say that out loud bc we accept alcohol as a part of our culture.

Fun fact of the day: George Washington: The father of our country kept meticulous diaries, wherein he noted “Sowed hemp at muddy hole by swamp” away from the hemp he grew for fiber. “Began to separate the male from female plants at do [sic --rather too late” and “Pulling up the (male) hemp. Was too late for the blossom hemp by three weeks or a month” indicates he was going for female plants with higher THC content. There is also indication he used hemp preparations to deal with his toothaches.

Even our founding fathers grew and used cannabis and hemp products regularly. It wasnt until the early to mid 1900s that our goverment filled our ears with false propaganda and began prohibition on this plant. It wasnt until then that our views as the public began to change.
Easy killer! Not all charters allow drinking. I would strongly recommend you check with the charter operator prior to lighting up. Plus the oceans are patrolled by the coast guard which operates under federal law not state law.

The charters ive been on certainly allow drinking. I dont light up on charters for the same reason i dont drink on them. Respect of the people around me. I simply think that the boats that allow you to drink, should without question allow you to smoke. Do washingtiin state laws change on a boat? Its obvious that the captain and crew have to be clean but does that pertain to the clients as well? So if i smoked before i got on the boat and tested positive for THC while i was on the charter would i get a ticket? I dont think thats right. Im pretty sure if youre not running the boat you can smoke, bc it is legal under wa state law
You are under federal law and Coast Guard jurisdiction on the water. Which still makes weed illegal. 

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 07:40:52 AM »
Checked this out and seems as though federal waters are a no go. But non federal water, according to the Liquor Control Board you are free to smoke as long as youre not operating and out of the view of general public

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 07:42:59 AM »
Pretty sure that would go over like a ton of bricks!

Why? Its legal, just like alcohol and they let you drink all you want on the boat. To the point that half most charter boat clients are drunk or heavily buzzed by the time they hit the dock. Hoestly drunks piss me off far worse than stoners. Drunks are loud, ego filled, unfiltered *censored*s that arent affraid to fight 90% of the time. Stoners are happy, hungry, and sleepy. They have almost zero amount of drive to want to pick a fight. They would rather tell jokes, laugh, and possibly find a package of oreo's and milk.

How many men have you ever heard of smoking a joint and going home and beating their wives? NONE alcohol? Too many to count

How many fatal DUIs are cause by alcohol vs green every year? The numbers are all there alcohol takes many more lives in vehicle deaths per year by a landslide.

How often do you hear of a raging stoner causing problems in public? LOL never they want a cheeseburger and a slurpee oh and maybe a good spot to sut down and chill for a bit.

Funny how facts are often overlooked and swept under the rug in favor of political stand points like smoking green vs drinking. Drinking is far more dangerous both physically and mentally to your body but no one wants to say that out loud bc we accept alcohol as a part of our culture.

Fun fact of the day: George Washington: The father of our country kept meticulous diaries, wherein he noted “Sowed hemp at muddy hole by swamp” away from the hemp he grew for fiber. “Began to separate the male from female plants at do [sic --rather too late” and “Pulling up the (male) hemp. Was too late for the blossom hemp by three weeks or a month” indicates he was going for female plants with higher THC content. There is also indication he used hemp preparations to deal with his toothaches.

Even our founding fathers grew and used cannabis and hemp products regularly. It wasnt until the early to mid 1900s that our goverment filled our ears with false propaganda and began prohibition on this plant. It wasnt until then that our views as the public began to change.
Easy killer! Not all charters allow drinking. I would strongly recommend you check with the charter operator prior to lighting up. Plus the oceans are patrolled by the coast guard which operates under federal law not state law.

The charters ive been on certainly allow drinking. I dont light up on charters for the same reason i dont drink on them. Respect of the people around me. I simply think that the boats that allow you to drink, should without question allow you to smoke. Do washingtiin state laws change on a boat? Its obvious that the captain and crew have to be clean but does that pertain to the clients as well? So if i smoked before i got on the boat and tested positive for THC while i was on the charter would i get a ticket? I dont think thats right. Im pretty sure if youre not running the boat you can smoke, bc it is legal under wa state law

I know a lot of Capt's and none of them allow drinking and will definitely not allow weed. The USCG rules for inspected vessels are so strict why risk it, and why risk the Capts license and livelyhood. 

So back on track. For the OP. Most deck hands don't get paid much by the boat so tip what your comfortable with. At least a $20. Depends on how hard they are working.

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 07:51:07 AM »
I think I gave my last deck hand 40.00 I gave 20.00 for fileting the fish and 20.00 tip.
:yeah:

If the deck hand is worth their salt they will have all of the fish done before the boat returns to harbor, clean filets bagged on ice ready to take home, and then they will still have to stay behind and finish cleaning the boat. All the ones I have had only received tips and no compensation from the boat. If you become a repeat customer with the same deck hand they are apt to remember who you are and treat you well.  :twocents:

I've never quite figured out the "no compensation from the boat" idea... in what other industries do we enforce a busker ideology to get ahead.  No captain can get a boat without being a deckhand and yet you live like a pauper or worse work for a captain that doesn't get on fish....
:yeah:

Exactly why a guy should be generous to a good crew. Example a charter of six guys $40 tip each equals $240 for the deck hand, but that deck hand is putting in a 12-14 hour plus day. They are at the boat before clients arrive and stay a couple hours after clients leave to prep for the next day.

If same guys only tip $20 each that is only $120 for 12-14 hours work which is hard to survive on even as a young person.  :twocents:
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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2016, 07:51:32 AM »
Im more simply playing devils advocate here i hope you guys realized that when i said i dont smoke or drink on charters. Im not concerned about doing either my arms and hands are too busy and bloody to deal with that crap when im fishing

I simply feel that its silly that drinking something that can make you all pissed off, want to fight, and cause problems is legal to consume on a boat if youre not driving but something thats far less dangerous is illegal. More people should look at the facts instead of following the train

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Re: First time on a charter
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2016, 07:58:29 AM »
I agree with you but that is the way it is. I wouldn't look twice at someone having a beer but if the lit up a joint that would be different.  Heck, you can smoke Cigs on the boat and I despise standing at the rail next to that   I'd rather they light up some reefer than a camel.

 


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