Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle

[JDHasty]

I find it funny that "some guy" comes on here to

1.  Straighten things out
2.  Says he won't say anything because it is an ongoing investigation.
3.  Says how many people will be served or sued for things they have said.
 
and my favorite

4.  Throws out a person's name from WDFW who HE says is to blame.....   

Not sure what's funny about that? And I didn't just throw out a name. I gave the name of the officer that gave clear permission to shoot the bull knowing exactly where it was at. If you think that's funny or something that's your rigbt.

Seems unlikely someone with a tag link that would risk a chance of getting in trouble at least you'd hope not

I'm not going to comment on any details while this case is open  or before the person on this forum gets served. I will tell you great steps were taken to do the right thing.

And the right thing was? 

Welcome to the site. Pretty big first couple of posts.

And who is getting served if you don't mind me asking.

Thank you for the welcome.  I signed up to this forum to hopefully clear things up some. There has been a lot of false information posted on this site. A call was made to the game department asking if it was ok to shoot the bull where it located. After Morgan Grant from the game department checked into it another phone conversation took place and the hunters were told they absolutely could harvest that bull with that tag at that location. If in fact the info given was wrong the game department is the one to be blamed.

As for the person on here that will be dealing with legal issues, I can't tell you who that is at this point. But if you read the thread on this topic that was removed it would be really easy for you to guess who.

Hopefully your info is accurate. Wouldn't want Mr. Grant filing a lawsuit against you.

 

[2MANY]

"A call was made to the game department asking if it was ok to shoot the bull where it located. After Morgan Grant from the game department checked into it another phone conversation took place and the hunters were told they absolutely could harvest that bull with that tag at that location."

This crap just makes me shake my head.
WHAT A HUNT!!!!!!
Cue in phone ringing, guy answering, take em Elmer, Bang!!!

An elk hunt???
Yea right.

[Gringo31]

Not sure what's funny about that? And I didn't just throw out a name. I gave the name of the officer that gave clear permission to shoot the bull knowing exactly where it was at. If you think that's funny or something that's your right.

Let me explain a bit further why I've exercised my right to find this funny...

You said

I'm not going to comment on any details while this case is open  

and

I haven't and won't say anything that will have any effect on either issue.

So.....you won't say anything, but then you used a persons full real name on why you feel is to blame.

Yep..... I still find that funny 

In the mean time, keep telling everyone that they are going to get sued, that they shouldn't say anything..... while clearly you don't walk your talk.

[huntnphool]

There has been a lot of false information posted on this site. A call was made to the game department asking if it was ok to shoot the bull where it located. After Morgan Grant from the game department checked into it another phone conversation took place and the hunters were told they absolutely could harvest that bull with that tag at that location.

 Has anyone contacted this guy to confirm this?

[pianoman9701]

Well, this is all very dramatic. Do we know the name of the person who spoke with Mr. Grant? Is it possible he's a "guide" who does a lot of celebrity guiding? This could explain a lot.  It's really fun, you know, until someone puts an eye out!!!

[idahohuntr]

I find it funny that "some guy" comes on here to

1.  Straighten things out
2.  Says he won't say anything because it is an ongoing investigation.
3.  Says how many people will be served or sued for things they have said.
 
and my favorite

4.  Throws out a person's name from WDFW who HE says is to blame.....   

Not sure what's funny about that? And I didn't just throw out a name. I gave the name of the officer that gave clear permission to shoot the bull knowing exactly where it was at. If you think that's funny or something that's your rigbt.

Why did you call the game department to ask if you knew exactly which unit the bull was located?  What about the regulations caused you concern that you were hunting in a closed unit and needed an officers clarification or permission - the latter for which he does not have authority? 

Bet you wish you had just went and hunted somewhere else now don't you 

[JDHasty]

From the start this was never going to end well. 

Very early on I  was in downtown Ellensburg having a burger with friends, a local Kittitas Valley guy said:  What were they thinking  -  Is this guy trying to be this year's recipient of the Dr Walter Palmer DDS Lifetime Achievement Award in the Patio Elk category?

I just can't get my mind around how anyone could have gotten the notion in their head that this scheme was viable.   

 

[PlateauNDN]

Man, same debacle, different thread.

[Alchase]

I find it funny that "some guy" comes on here to

1.  Straighten things out
2.  Says he won't say anything because it is an ongoing investigation.
3.  Says how many people will be served or sued for things they have said.
 
and my favorite

4.  Throws out a person's name from WDFW who HE says is to blame.....   

Not sure what's funny about that? And I didn't just throw out a name. I gave the name of the officer that gave clear permission to shoot the bull knowing exactly where it was at. If you think that's funny or something that's your rigbt.

Wait one minute ............. Ok I have my BS boots on, continue

Or would you rather just threaten me with a lawsuit as well?

[jjhunter]

Soooo.....

Super Trooper gave the kill order?   

[Whitenuckles]

 This guy should be charged with a FELONY! No more hunting, no more guns!

Makes me sick. What a pathetic excuse for a man.

[Colville]

Can someone point me to the RCW or WDFW enacting legislation that grants WDFW enforcement officers the authority to suspend, temporarily or situationally, the issued regulations of the department?

Oh, and is there anything but a "he said" that mr Grant gave his permission verbally? Anything that documents his action? Recording? Text? Email? 

Assuming this permission could be documented, it seems to me it would only be evidence that the Sgt and the hunter should both be prosecuted, rather than a basis that the hunter is without fault. If a police officer gives me "permission" to steal a car, I'm pretty sure I'm still going to jail if another officer arrests me for it.  Primarily because I don't hear anyone claiming that the legality was in question, only whether or not they tried to get someone to give them extrajudicial Okee Dokee.

Feel free to correct me if that's wrong. But I have seen nothing that suggests that anyone misunderstood the unit the game was in or if it had any branch antlered season that would make it open to the tag holder.  I'd have a slightly different opinion if someone was making a reasonable claim that the unit location was unclear or that a reg was ambiguous and they needed WDFW to clear it up, haven't seen that.

[JDHasty]

Here's another story.

http://www.wideopenspaces.com/high-profile-hunter-shoots-famous-elk-in-restricted-pasture-outrage-follows/

[Miles]

Sounds like the same story.

[JDHasty]

Sounds like the same story.

Looks like it is based on the Yakima Herald story.  A friend sent me the link, I have never heard of that website.