Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle

[DaveMonti]

Keep pushing it out. 

At this rate, he'll be able to buy next year's tags and plan on hunting next fall before the trial. 

[huntnphool]

Keep pushing it out. 

At this rate, he'll be able to buy next year's tags and plan on hunting next fall before the trial.

 Seems to be a effective strategy.

[boneaddict]

or until everyone forgets about it and it just goes away

[time2hunt]

Just a quick update it's not Tod pushing out the date!!! It's the prosecutions doing by charging the other guy with Tod  they the prosecution don't want him testifying against the State.


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[DaveMonti]

Regardless, it's just another example of how the system wastes time and money. 

[jrebel]

Speaking of time and money......who won the bets earlier made in this topic / thread and who is writing a check for Youth turkey hunt contest??  I am pretty sure there were challenges made...someone had to have been wrong.   

Feel free to PM me so we can get this turkey contest funded like it has never been funded before.   

[Rainier10]

Speaking of time and money......who won the bets earlier made in this topic / thread and who is writing a check for Youth turkey hunt contest??  I am pretty sure there were challenges made...someone had to have been wrong.   

Feel free to PM me so we can get this turkey contest funded like it has never been funded before.   

[NOCK NOCK]

I would venture to guess that one of those involved in the betting is probably saving money for their defense. 

[Alchase]

Would love to see the look on his face when he writes that check!
Of course every person who was threatened with lawsuit, should be able to be present as well.
LOL

I should say "hypothetical check" I find it just as hard to believe he would have the integrity to write that check, as it was to believe his misdirection.

[jackelope]

Just a quick update it's not Tod pushing out the date!!! It's the prosecutions doing by charging the other guy with Tod  they the prosecution don't want him testifying against the State.


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Interesting.

[OutHouse]

The prosecutor's choice to charge the other guy is A) justified as we know he is a liar--all calls to the game department are recorded and his wasn't i.e. it didn't happen and B) he can still testify in the defense of his friend but the questions asked of him need to be tailored as to not open the door on cross examination to questions that incriminate him. Practically speaking, the companion hunter's attorney is going to tell him not to testify at all. Either way that's probably a good thing because that fake story about the call to the game department is going to be impeached when a representative from the department testifies that the calls are recorded, and this conversation never took place. I do defense work and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the attorney is hoping that someone on the jury is sympathetic to this old fool, and will not vote guilty. It's not a bad idea. If I were advising this fellow, I'd tell him there is plenty of evidence of guilt and you will likely be convicted, but maybe we can get someone on the jury who will feel sympathetic to you. Regardless of what happens, the old fart is a SMEAR on the reputation of all sportsmen.

[popeshawnpaul]

The prosecutor's choice to charge the other guy is A) justified as we know he is a liar--all calls to the game department are recorded and his wasn't i.e. it didn't happen and B) he can still testify in the defense of his friend but the questions asked of him need to be tailored as to not open the door on cross examination to questions that incriminate him. Practically speaking, the companion hunter's attorney is going to tell him not to testify at all. Either way that's probably a good thing because that fake story about the call to the game department is going to be impeached when a representative from the department testifies that the calls are recorded, and this conversation never took place. I do defense work and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the attorney is hoping that someone on the jury is sympathetic to this old fool, and will not vote guilty. It's not a bad idea. If I were advising this fellow, I'd tell him there is plenty of evidence of guilt and you will likely be convicted, but maybe we can get someone on the jury who will feel sympathetic to you. Regardless of what happens, the old fart is a SMEAR on the reputation of all sportsmen.

Except, the calls aren't recorded and weren't in this case...  We know from the WDFW affidavit there was a call but they disagree on what the conversation was about and the response.  TR decided to execute the speedy waiver and that was his choice.  He could call the witness and they could only shut him down on questions where he is admitting to a crime.  From his statement he did not commit a crime.  He can testify to much of what he was advised if they can get around heresay.

[OutHouse]

The prosecutor's choice to charge the other guy is A) justified as we know he is a liar--all calls to the game department are recorded and his wasn't i.e. it didn't happen and B) he can still testify in the defense of his friend but the questions asked of him need to be tailored as to not open the door on cross examination to questions that incriminate him. Practically speaking, the companion hunter's attorney is going to tell him not to testify at all. Either way that's probably a good thing because that fake story about the call to the game department is going to be impeached when a representative from the department testifies that the calls are recorded, and this conversation never took place. I do defense work and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the attorney is hoping that someone on the jury is sympathetic to this old fool, and will not vote guilty. It's not a bad idea. If I were advising this fellow, I'd tell him there is plenty of evidence of guilt and you will likely be convicted, but maybe we can get someone on the jury who will feel sympathetic to you. Regardless of what happens, the old fart is a SMEAR on the reputation of all sportsmen.

Except, the calls aren't recorded and weren't in this case...  We know from the WDFW affidavit there was a call but they disagree on what the conversation was about and the response.  TR decided to execute the speedy waiver and that was his choice.  He could call the witness and they could only shut him down on questions where he is admitting to a crime.  From his statement he did not commit a crime.  He can testify to much of what he was advised if they can get around heresay.

Except they won't get around hearsay with an exception and the only other reason to say what was said would be for the truth of the statement. They have a hearsay problem, no doubt. I don't know what he said, but there is a very good argument that he is an accomplice for aiding and abetting the crime that took place. His statement may not admit guilt, but the circumstances are perfect for the prosecutor to charge him as an accomplice. Of course, accomplice liability is the same as the liability of the principal. Both of their gooses are cooked, but like I said all he needs is one holdout juror.

[huntnphool]

Speaking of time and money......who won the bets earlier made in this topic / thread and who is writing a check for Youth turkey hunt contest??  I am pretty sure there were challenges made...someone had to have been wrong.   

Feel free to PM me so we can get this turkey contest funded like it has never been funded before.   

[Pinetar]

I believe CBoom lost a bet with me and owes some money to the Youth Turkey hunt but wasn't he banned? Or am I thinking of someone else?