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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2017, 08:30:57 PM »
I have the sawtooth tent and love it.  I also have a EE quilt in 10 degrees.   I really like the quilt but some things to consider.  I coldest I have used it in was 20 degrees and it was plenty warm. But, you need to have some sort of hood or beanie to wear with it.  If you roll around enough in your sleep you will feel air get it.  Just make sure with the tent you try and get the edges down as close as you can where you sleep.   Cold wind drafts in the middle of the night will piss you off.  I either put snow around it or branches dirt ext. 

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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2017, 09:01:20 PM »
Another  :tup: for the EE quilt.  I've had min for 2 seasons and have zero complaints.  My theory was go with a zero degree and even if it only got me down into the high teens or low 20's it would still be lighter and more compact than a mummy of similar rating.  Basically was spot on.  I've had it to single digits and was confortable.  Like was said before, cover your head, wear something to bed otherwise you will be sticking to your pad, and keep the straps tight around your pad if it's cold and they work aeesome.  I always have my FL long Johns on a backpack hunt so I wear them as PJ's. 
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2017, 09:01:55 PM »
I ran the quilt for a trip this last year in fairly cold temperatures. I know FillTheFreezer has been down around 0 with his. I haven't had a quilt that low, but was very impressed into the 20s this year on a multi night trip which finally convinced me to go that route. Also saved almost a pound over my helium.

It's taken me a while to convert, but the benefits just simply outweigh any pitfalls for me.

But I'll also say they are an adjustment to get used too.


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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2017, 09:08:09 PM »
I ran the quilt for a trip this last year in fairly cold temperatures. I know FillTheFreezer has been down around 0 with his. I haven't had a quilt that low, but was very impressed into the 20s this year on a multi night trip which finally convinced me to go that route. Also saved almost a pound over my helium.

It's taken me a while to convert, but the benefits just simply outweigh any pitfalls for me.

But I'll also say they are an adjustment to get used too.


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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2017, 09:19:48 PM »
I'm running a megatarp with extensions to raise it off the ground for air flow to avoid condensation. Running an EE 20 down quilt on an r4.4 wide pad. To avoid the drafts and condensation on the quilt I had bearpawwilderness build a custom size bivy out of Cuban bathtub with breathable upper with noseeum over my head for around 7 ounces. If it's super cold or I'm wet I'll run the megatarp to the ground with the annex and 18" cylinder stove.
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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2017, 09:22:12 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2017, 09:47:04 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

Looks good !  12# shipping weight kinda scares me off for a packbag tho....

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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2017, 10:05:19 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

Looks good !  12# shipping weight kinda scares me off for a packbag tho....

Try to find it at a military surplus and show them the cheapest online price you can. They'll price match usually. Buy new or lightly used, when they're used they are usually very beat up from constant re-issue.

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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2017, 10:30:06 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2017, 11:38:33 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Don't have to use both bags to be warm. If weight is your concerned you can subtract 1 of them and still use the bivy on one and be okay.

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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2017, 06:09:29 AM »
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Don't have to use both bags to be warm. If weight is your concerned you can subtract 1 of them and still use the bivy on one and be okay.

To what temperature and what weight?

My guess it's still in the 4-5 lb range which just isn't viable for a backpacking application, which I'm assuming the OP is talking about. If not, buy away.

I'm not questioning the quality of warmth of the bag, as I've never used it.


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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2017, 10:50:35 AM »
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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2017, 12:09:06 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Don't have to use both bags to be warm. If weight is your concerned you can subtract 1 of them and still use the bivy on one and be okay.

To what temperature and what weight?

My guess it's still in the 4-5 lb range which just isn't viable for a backpacking application, which I'm assuming the OP is talking about. If not, buy away.

I'm not questioning the quality of warmth of the bag, as I've never used it.


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If you just take the black bag plus the bivy should be good until 0 degrees easily and be maybe 3-4 lbs. The green bag is mainly for spring/summer. If super cold I would recommend having both the green/black sleeping bags plus the bivy sack which will be good until about -30-40.

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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2017, 03:29:32 PM »
Sounds great for close to the rig but I'd never pack that when I can get a 1.75# quilt that is warm to under 10 degrees for less than $200
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Re: Sleep systems
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2017, 04:08:19 PM »
I have a Mountain Smith LT in great shape and a tyvek homemade footprint if someone is looking for something like that. Used it for 4 nights.  $80tyd

 


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