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i made a trip there today.the road was closed just past elk rock view point.lots of guys with snow machines .past there.i saw a bunch of elk in the valley (duh) i broke out the spotter and there was alot of bulls with horns. i did see one , one horned bull. i hope people stay out of the valley for awhile.sheds arent worth the cost this time of year
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January 31, 2009, 09:49:15 PM »
A bit early for elk...shouldn't be dropping till March/April. And people should stay the hell out of winter range until then or later, preferably later.
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Anything real big Curtis? See any other critters?
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February 01, 2009, 09:20:24 AM »
i never got off the highway, so some of the elk i was looking at were a mile plus away.i did see some people with horses heading down into the valley.i saw one real stand out bull with real long swords.i also saw a ton of the st helens 5 pointers.
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February 01, 2009, 09:31:56 AM »
Isn't the valley closed to public entry until April 1st for the wintering elk?
You should have gotten some license numbers, could have been some points for you.
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February 01, 2009, 10:41:32 AM »
Thanks, for the info. I would love to go there with you sometime.
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February 01, 2009, 10:45:30 AM »
Its been several years since I've been down there but we used to go down about this time every year and take pics, I don't know if you can still get in there this time of year without getting in trouble
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February 01, 2009, 11:43:56 AM »
Its closed until april 1st. Its posted on the right side below the forest learning center!
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February 01, 2009, 01:03:35 PM »
Heavy Hauler, I saw a bull down there a couple weeks ago with one horn, the other was broke off right above the pedicle...wonder if it was the same one?
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awe man , i wish i could remember which side was missing.he was ALONG ways away. i know it is real early for them to be dropping.no license plate numbers, i totaly spaced it
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February 01, 2009, 07:07:50 PM »
He most likely hadn't shed. Instead he may have been a one-antlered bull (defect?) or broke it off at the pedicle. I've seen that a few times. They shouldn't be shedding any sooner than late March but the timing always fluctuates depending on the health of the animals and photo period.
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February 01, 2009, 08:15:05 PM »
what causes the elk to shed there antlers when they do? i have watched them for years and i am not sure.i will make a return trip asap and see if i can get a better look at the one horned bull.
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The photo period is the main cause. The length of daylight in a day = Photo Period. When light levels hit a certain point it triggers the release of a hormone that slowly deteriorates the bonding layer between the top of the pedicle and base of the antler. Health of a given animal may affect this process some but generally, unless you're dealing with a stag (never sheds) abnormality, elk will drop around the end of March or beginning of April. I'm no expert but I've always been facinated by antlers, so I read a lot about the physiology of ungulates, especially elk.
Some good reading: "Elk of North America". It's
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awesome thanks
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