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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #75 on: May 28, 2016, 12:05:43 PM »
Since this threads about the NRA, I simply asked if anyone's read a book. The book goes into more detail about the ideas Trump has and it's not 45 sec snarky bits. My context is in line with the NRA's comments.

For that I'm part of a Fascist movement?

If you are not an NRA member, if you didn't watch the speech regarding the endorsement, if you haven't read the book  "Crippled America" that discusses these issues in more detail, is it possible that references to my "Brownshirt" might be a little misplaced?

Maybe the "us vs. them" context is in line even with the thread?

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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2016, 12:20:45 PM »
Hey Wenatcheejay, do you by any chance work for Verizon or Samsung? :chuckle:
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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #77 on: May 28, 2016, 12:34:10 PM »
Hey Wenatcheejay, do you by any chance work for Verizon or Samsung? :chuckle:
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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2016, 12:35:14 PM »
Hey Wenatcheejay, do you by any chance work for Verizon or Samsung? :chuckle:
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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2016, 08:41:01 PM »
Hey Wenatcheejay, do you by any chance work for Verizon or Samsung? :chuckle:
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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #82 on: May 29, 2016, 08:41:38 PM »
I do agree with the permit being good for all 50 states, but the second amendment should be our permit; No Govt permission needed. :twocents:
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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2016, 09:59:36 AM »
I do agree with the permit being good for all 50 states, but the second amendment should be our permit; No Govt permission needed. :twocents:

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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #84 on: May 31, 2016, 12:28:46 PM »
 :bash: :bash: :bash: The states attorneys general can work out reciprocity and recognition agreements at will. The only argument to be made in favor of federalizing CCW laws, which are currently ran by the states, is for simplicity and laziness.

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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2016, 12:48:40 PM »
I should clarify my agreement above; I'm not in favor of permits being good in all states.  I do agree that the 2nd Amendment should be our carry permit.

I do also believe that it should be state's rights issue.  I like Arizona's conceal carry laws best of any state's laws I'm aware of.
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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #86 on: May 31, 2016, 12:52:13 PM »
I also agree that the 2A should be our permit.

AZ's law for CCW is great but several states have it. There's also the ancillary laws for the aftermath of a shooting that make our state great. If you pop someone here, the magical encantation to the 911 operator/responding LEO is as follows: "I was the victim of a crime, I have my attacker in custody, I need police and EMS, I want to speak to an attorney." By making the affirmative statement of self defense ("I was the victim of a crime"), it is VERY hard for a prostitutor to even file charges a CCWer.

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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #87 on: May 31, 2016, 01:05:03 PM »
:bash: :bash: :bash: The states attorneys general can work out reciprocity and recognition agreements at will. The only argument to be made in favor of federalizing CCW laws, which are currently ran by the states, is for simplicity and laziness.

Be careful what you wish for  :bdid: :bdid: :bdid:

Some people would just refer to that as federal enforcement of constitutional protections.   Why should we have to wait on each state's AG or a yet-to-materialize SCOTUS recognition that the 2A provides adequate justification for reciprocity?

It seems like consistent protection of individual liberties is a central tenet of republicanism (the philosophy, not the party).   

Where's the beef?


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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #88 on: May 31, 2016, 01:22:55 PM »
Yeah... like the Department of Injustice "enforcing" civil rights laws. How's that workin' out??

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Re: NRA endorses Trump
« Reply #89 on: May 31, 2016, 01:32:23 PM »
I am speaking philosophically, not practically.  Of course Obama's Justice Department is not going to enforce 2A protections against the states.

But that is how our republic is set up, where the constitution empowers the federal government to set minimum protection of liberties.  States are free to design greater protections. 

But instead, in re 2A, the states are all over the map with greater or less protections. 

It seems like a perfect role for the federal government to set and enforce minimum consistent standards. 

 


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